[Imc-uk-process] Why I am pleased for Indymedia to distance itself from Tony Gosling.

[ilyan]

What a bloody mess.
I was shown  the inside of Thatcherism being conspired in 1954.   I knew 
the details of the Miners' Strike then. 
You now know the pretty side of what was planned.  The ugly side stayed 
on standby.
If you do not know how the enemy are thinking and have a close 
understanding of their minds, one morning someone will surprise you,  
kick your door down and kill you.    If you are lucky.    If you are 
unlucky they will delight to extract everything you know.
Conspiracy Theory?   
 Theory??
If I were you I would pay close attention to whatever Tony Gosling says 
about Bilderberg and follow up the leads he gives into what the enemy 
are thinking.    I have run into several times over the years since I 
first met him, I think on an EF!.   He was always involved  in some 
scheme like Eco-villages, and doing good work organising things.  
When someone talks to me dismissively about Conspiracy theory I think 
them either a fool, or an agent of the Conspirors out to lay a thick 
smoke screen of disbelief to hide the evil machinations.
There are people who delight in talking through their theories of 
Conspiracies,making a study of them to explain how the world works.   
And there are those like Alun Thomas and Claud Cockburn who conspired 
together to plan how to get an appropriate person to have the idea of a 
british equivelent to the American Civil Liberties Union.   Of course 
you don't believe me, and I cannot remember the title of the book 
written by two of the Hunger Marchers who executed the conspiracy.  
And there was the man I met in 54.
No one listened to my reports then, except Alun who at first said  They 
are digging their own graves, then thought a bit.... and said Fascism 
means stagnation.

I read something Space Bunny said in a URL and agree with his building 
endeavours,  but it is also necessary to keep a close eye on the 
destructors who will be absolutely ruthless to maintain their power and 
profits.  
Ilyan




Space Bunny wrote:

> Well I think a strong stance by those involved in Indymedia should be 
> taken against Tony Gosling.
> Firstly for emailing AnarchoBabe of Indymedia Scotland directly off 
> list when AnarchoBabe has made clear she did not wish communications 
> from him and wished all discussion of Indymedia Editorial as far as 
> this issue goes take place on open imc-uk-features list.
>
> http://imcscotland.org/TonyGoslingandIndymedia.htm
>
> This is all wrapped up with Tony Gosling open promotion of far right 
> groups. He chooses to link to them as he see they have unique 
> information. If this is that case then that information can be taken 
> and verified and republished with out generally recommending them. One 
> thing is Tony Gosling does not see groups such as the America Free 
> Press as far right. The reason such groups attempt to dispute the 
> systematic nature of the the genocide of the Nazis is in order to 
> rehabilitate them. The American Free Press is pretty obviously coming 
> from the far right. I can understand seeing groups like ProsperityUK 
> as just being hard right and one has to dig deeper to see they are a 
> far right front, but there is enough that are obvious for you to wish 
> to distance yourself from Tony Gosling as well.
>
> But it is not just Tony linking to American Free Press etc. on his 
> webpages and in articles he posts to Indymedia.
> He is happy to meet with them (when they were Spotlight) and praise 
> them as 'sincere' in an article in Squall.
>
> On his page:
> http://www.bilderberg.org/jewish.htm#Fast
>
> He points people to "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"
>
> where he says:
> "Well-known book 'Warrant for Genocide' attempts to prove the 
> Protocols to be a forgery."
>
> So he he knows of the Norman Cohn's book which not only attempts but 
> does actually  prove they are a forgery. Why does Tony Gosling want to 
> put this simply as an 'attempt'. This book brings together proof that 
> has appeared before in many places including the Times in 1921 showing 
> how they are based on Dialogue aux Enfers a satire against Napoleon. 
> Does Tony Gosling believe this earlier work was not published?
> Warrant for Genocide is well worth reading for it overview on 
> evolution of anti-Semitism, but some info on the forgery of the 
> Protocols can be found at: http://www.masonicinfo.com/protocols.htm
>
> my previous musings on the issue.
> http://j12.org/files/bilder.htm
>
> I realise that many of you are viewing Tony Gosling like the punks 
> that wore swastikas in attempt to be rebellious and attract attention 
> they crave. And that being disruptive to Indymedia is enough to want 
> to put distance from him.
>
> cheers,
>
> Space Bunny
> http://j12.org/sb/
>
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