[Imc-uk-process] .indymedia.org.uk emails

[ilyan]

Toys for boys?    What is in a name?    The uniform indymedia email idea 
will facilitate both detection and  pulling the plug on all indymedia 
correspondence. 

The  Tony G reference is a good point of principle against that idea.  
But be carefull,   Tony G  was doing good work on indymedia lines before 
there was an indymedia.  Now there is a witch hunt after him calling him 
a fascist.  Unfortunately what is happening is that Stalinist 
Politically Corrects are calling him a Hitlerite.    That is the meaning 
of Fascist in their language.  They have neither read Mussolini, nor 
talked to real up to date Fascists to know what they are up to 
today.     They are intending a far worse insult than a politically 
aware person might  think.   

Once a witch hunt starts, people stop listening.  And for some 
inconcieveable reason, start  telling lies.   Preconceptions take over 
and ghastly mistakes can be made.  Is that what happened in an American 
indymedia?     
Be very very ware
Ilyan



cc wrote:

>Hi
>
>On Wed 17-Mar-2004 at 06:33:35AM -0800, Dave wrote:
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>>Just a quick note to say I'm not really in favour of
>>personal .indymedia.org.uk emails.  I am quite torn
>>about this because I think I would be very proud to have
>>such an email, but I worry that it would be off-putting
>>to new, less experienced, or less technical people if
>>there was a group of us who had .indymedia.org.uk
>>addresses, and a (probably much larger) group who didn't
>>know that they could have one, how to get one, etc.  
>>    
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>
>Hmmm, well _if_ we decide to have them I think we should
>say how people can ask for them (on the wiki I guess) --
>globally people just need to ask on listwork, we could do
>it like that or we could tie them to admin accounts on the
>web site. Linking them to admin accounts on the web site
>is tempting because this answers the question about how to
>allocate them...
>
>  
>
>>It's tempting.  Ideally, I'd very much like to have an
>>IMAP account with a UK indy suffix, but this is in many
>>ways an even worse thing as the potential for abusive,
>>insensitive, just plain stupid stuff happening becomes
>>much stronger: 
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>
>Why does having an IMAP account make any difference from
>having aliases in terms of potential abuse?
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>  
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>>the Tony G controversy that has been
>>playing out could have been / could be much worse if
>>control of an email address was/were involved in it.
>>    
>>
>
>Dunno, perhaps... remember that until not long ago he was
>a moderator on at least one global list and he is still a
>signatory on the UK network bank account... I'm not sure
>that him having a tony at bristol.indymedia.org (or whatever)
>address really would have made much difference... if
>anything it might have brought things to a head sooner if
>he was doing non indymedia stuff with an indy address...?
>
>  
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>>However, I also see many benefits coming from having an
>>address like this:  better security, cooler domain
>>names, group spirit, etc.
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>Yep...
>
>  
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>>Sorry I haven't chimed in sooner with concerns, things
>>have been really hectic here and I've not had much time
>>to follow the development of this one, 
>>    
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>
>Don't worry I don't think there is any need to rush a
>decision on this :-)
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>>pps this is all just a very rushed opinion on something
>>that may already be decided, I dunno.
>>    
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>
>I don't think a decision has been made yet :-)
>
>Chris
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