[Imc-uk-process] .indymedia.org.uk emails

[mick fuzz]

my two cents

i dont' think we should have personal indymedia.org. uk emails

just ones for groups

cya
mick

----- Original Message -----
From: ilyan <ac.thomas at ntlworld.com>
To: <imc-uk-tech at lists.indymedia.org>
Cc: <Imc-uk-process at lists.indymedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Imc-uk-process] .indymedia.org.uk emails


> Toys for boys?    What is in a name?    The uniform indymedia email idea
> will facilitate both detection and  pulling the plug on all indymedia
> correspondence.
>
> The  Tony G reference is a good point of principle against that idea.
> But be carefull,   Tony G  was doing good work on indymedia lines before
> there was an indymedia.  Now there is a witch hunt after him calling him
> a fascist.  Unfortunately what is happening is that Stalinist
> Politically Corrects are calling him a Hitlerite.    That is the meaning
> of Fascist in their language.  They have neither read Mussolini, nor
> talked to real up to date Fascists to know what they are up to
> today.     They are intending a far worse insult than a politically
> aware person might  think.
>
> Once a witch hunt starts, people stop listening.  And for some
> inconcieveable reason, start  telling lies.   Preconceptions take over
> and ghastly mistakes can be made.  Is that what happened in an American
> indymedia?
> Be very very ware
> Ilyan
>
>
>
> cc wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >On Wed 17-Mar-2004 at 06:33:35AM -0800, Dave wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Just a quick note to say I'm not really in favour of
> >>personal .indymedia.org.uk emails.  I am quite torn
> >>about this because I think I would be very proud to have
> >>such an email, but I worry that it would be off-putting
> >>to new, less experienced, or less technical people if
> >>there was a group of us who had .indymedia.org.uk
> >>addresses, and a (probably much larger) group who didn't
> >>know that they could have one, how to get one, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Hmmm, well _if_ we decide to have them I think we should
> >say how people can ask for them (on the wiki I guess) --
> >globally people just need to ask on listwork, we could do
> >it like that or we could tie them to admin accounts on the
> >web site. Linking them to admin accounts on the web site
> >is tempting because this answers the question about how to
> >allocate them...
> >
> >
> >
> >>It's tempting.  Ideally, I'd very much like to have an
> >>IMAP account with a UK indy suffix, but this is in many
> >>ways an even worse thing as the potential for abusive,
> >>insensitive, just plain stupid stuff happening becomes
> >>much stronger:
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why does having an IMAP account make any difference from
> >having aliases in terms of potential abuse?
> >
> >
> >
> >>the Tony G controversy that has been
> >>playing out could have been / could be much worse if
> >>control of an email address was/were involved in it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Dunno, perhaps... remember that until not long ago he was
> >a moderator on at least one global list and he is still a
> >signatory on the UK network bank account... I'm not sure
> >that him having a tony at bristol.indymedia.org (or whatever)
> >address really would have made much difference... if
> >anything it might have brought things to a head sooner if
> >he was doing non indymedia stuff with an indy address...?
> >
> >
> >
> >>However, I also see many benefits coming from having an
> >>address like this:  better security, cooler domain
> >>names, group spirit, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yep...
> >
> >
> >
> >>Sorry I haven't chimed in sooner with concerns, things
> >>have been really hectic here and I've not had much time
> >>to follow the development of this one,
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Don't worry I don't think there is any need to rush a
> >decision on this :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >>pps this is all just a very rushed opinion on something
> >>that may already be decided, I dunno.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I don't think a decision has been made yet :-)
> >
> >Chris
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> >
> >
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