[Imc-uk-process] IndyCymru to be removed from list of (uk) IMC's

[What We're Doing]

Seems to make sense to remove IndyCymru from the list of uk IMC's...largely 
because it's not a uk IMC.  I would also agree that the article on the site 
that was pointed out is unhelpful to say the least.

:-)

poon - cambridge

>From: /m <info at nephridium.org>
>Reply-To: kaozmotic at fastmail.fm
>To: Planet Mail <planet-mail at pop3.poptel.org.uk>
>CC: imc-uk-process at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Imc-uk-process] IndyCymru to be removed from list of (uk) 
>IMC's
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:05:16 +0000
>
>......
>i suppose that this is ok (for the reasons mentioned), but there is an
>element of humour in that IndyCumry posting which is targeted at a
>certain kind of Political Correctness tendencies that easily can lead to
>en exclusionary tone (a downward spiral) - and anyone should take that
>seriously, IMHO.
>
>PlanetMail refers to IRC debate earlier today in which the tone was of a
>kind that made PM note:
>
>""* pmail doesn't feel that comfortable with discussing ppl like this on
>irc""
>
>Sometimes individual preferences can be fuelled and taken beyond the
>limits of good taste by someone else provoking the basis of that
>preference. (the link removal seemed to be caused by the straw that
>broke the camel's back: the provocative posting. Recall "Yes, I want you
>to invade Iraq", by Osama bin laden)
>
>Just as well as there can be problems with X's behaviour there can very
>well be problems with Y's anti-X behaviour...
>
>Two wrongs never make much right....... /yes, i am tryin to be critical
>and reflective, and yes, i am not following any party line/
>
>sorry, just had to say it...
>
>m - lancaster
>
>
>On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 14:41, Planet Mail wrote:
> > Hi folks.
> >
> > After talking to imc people on IRC and imc people
> > in london the following action is proposed.
> >
> > The "Wales" link should be removed from the imc
> > links section on the left hand side of the site (it's
> > listed under "Other UK IMCs")
> >
> > There are several reasons for this:
> >
> > The website IndyCymru is not an official IMC
> > IndyCymru is not part of the official UK IMC Network
> > IndyCymru does not have an open posting newswire
> > IndyCymru requires registration even for comments
> >
> > History:
> >
> > IndyCymru was listed on indymedia uk in the imc links and
> > on the contact pages as "Wales" in a spitit of co-operation
> > and support. IndyCymru was invited to imc uk network
> > meetings in the same spirit of co-operation and with
> > the desire to offer support...
> >
> > ...but this was done on the understanding that people
> > there were trying to sort things out, to become a bona
> > fide imc, institute an open posting newswire etc etc
> >
> > After a very long time, this has not happened, and so
> > consequently it should no longer be listed as an IMC.
> >
> > But also last Tuesday something serious has happened.
> >
> > An internal imc email relating to the conclusion of a
> > conflict at imc bristol has been posted as a middle
> > column feature with the following text used to frame it:
> >
> > ------
> > TITLE: "Witch Hunt! Is IMC becoming a CIA front?"
> > "Are Politically Correct Fascists getting rid of the real IMC
> > people, or are MI5 and CIA undercover operators castrating
> > IMC by getting the best people thrown out?"
> > Posted by: ilyan
> > ------
> > see:
> > 
>http://www.indycymru.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=538&mode=thread&order=0
> >
> > This is totally unacceptable.
> >
> > Not only is it putting some very serious infactual spin on what
> > has been a difficult conflict, but it shows complete disrespect
> > for both the process britsol imc people have been engaged in
> > and indeed the whole imc project.
> >
> > Not even the people involved in the bristol conflict themselves
> > would have put something like this on the frontpage !!
> >
> > So, time has come to act and to remove the link to IndyCymru
> > listed as "Wales" under "Other UK IMCs"
> >
> > As stated earlier IndyCymru is not an IMC and the link was only
> > included as a show of encouragement and support.
> >
> > I'm sure all will agree that the uk indymedia network would still
> > offer support and encouragement for an indymedia wales, but one
> > that can meet the minimum standards and criteria for being part
> > of the indymedia network.
> >
> > In line with this the details for "Wales" in the contact page
> > should be similarly ammended:
> > http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/contact.html
> > renaming Wales as IndyCymru, listing it at the end of the different
> > imc details, and calling it a "related project".
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave
> > imc uk volunteer
> > london
> >
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