[Imc-uk-process] IndyCymru to be removed from list of (uk) IMC's

[ilyan]

I smelt a Witch Hunt at Sheffield and had my direct questions about what 
was going on in one workshop answered with what now are shown to be 
evasions, and there were no informative discussion on these lines in the 
general meetings there.   There were secret cliques at work.

Then there were snippets in emails about Tony Gosling.

So when I came back from the Aberystwyth March  with the hope of having 
found some more editors, and that perhaps Puppy Linux would enable ( my 
new machine does not go well with Mandarke 9.2) a switch to MIR 
software, (- indycymru being very constrained by its software,) and 
found there had been a witch hunt I had no alternative but to put up
"Time to be Paranoid?
Ilyan 23 Mar 2004 10:13 GMT
  Now and again over nearly ten years I have run into Tony Gosling. He 
has always been doing good work in the alternative systems.
I spent the weekend recruiting to form an IMC Group and came home to 
find this email that I have posted up here:    (indycymru URL to Witch 
Hunt and Gosling's email)"  [you could get it through Google anyhow.]

Largely because, from what I have seen, the way he has been treated 
stinks.     And the IMC idea is too important to let it be contaminated 
in this way without a challenge.  

It appears that only one other person has read and understands what Tony 
Gosling wrote.   

I am astounded at Gosling's forbearance after what has been said about 
him.  It is as inexplicable as the lack of defence put up by Bukharin in 
the Stalinist trials.      Is he perhaps a Quaker?      I asked 
questions, people had better think about them.   And Tony Gosling has 
made suggestions.   How many of the witch hunters have read them?  

Note that I am no particular friend of Tony Gosling, even been censored 
by him.   but this is a matter of  "Truth against the World".
Ilyan,  which is the name on the birth certificate the Judge said is mine.




Planet Mail wrote:

> Hi folks.
>
> After talking to imc people on IRC and imc people
> in london the following action is proposed.
>
> The "Wales" link should be removed from the imc
> links section on the left hand side of the site (it's
> listed under "Other UK IMCs")
>
> There are several reasons for this:
>
> The website IndyCymru is not an official IMC
> IndyCymru is not part of the official UK IMC Network
> IndyCymru does not have an open posting newswire
> IndyCymru requires registration even for comments
>
> History:
>
> IndyCymru was listed on indymedia uk in the imc links and
> on the contact pages as "Wales" in a spitit of co-operation
> and support. IndyCymru was invited to imc uk network
> meetings in the same spirit of co-operation and with
> the desire to offer support...
>
> ...but this was done on the understanding that people
> there were trying to sort things out, to become a bona
> fide imc, institute an open posting newswire etc etc
>
> After a very long time, this has not happened, and so
> consequently it should no longer be listed as an IMC.
>
> But also last Tuesday something serious has happened.
>
> An internal imc email relating to the conclusion of a
> conflict at imc bristol has been posted as a middle
> column feature with the following text used to frame it:
>
> ------
> TITLE: "Witch Hunt! Is IMC becoming a CIA front?"
> "Are Politically Correct Fascists getting rid of the real IMC
> people, or are MI5 and CIA undercover operators castrating
> IMC by getting the best people thrown out?"
> Posted by: ilyan
> ------
> see:
> http://www.indycymru.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=538&mode=thread&order=0 
>
>
> This is totally unacceptable.
>
> Not only is it putting some very serious infactual spin on what
> has been a difficult conflict, but it shows complete disrespect
> for both the process britsol imc people have been engaged in
> and indeed the whole imc project.
>
> Not even the people involved in the bristol conflict themselves
> would have put something like this on the frontpage !!
>
> So, time has come to act and to remove the link to IndyCymru
> listed as "Wales" under "Other UK IMCs"
>
> As stated earlier IndyCymru is not an IMC and the link was only
> included as a show of encouragement and support.
>
> I'm sure all will agree that the uk indymedia network would still
> offer support and encouragement for an indymedia wales, but one
> that can meet the minimum standards and criteria for being part
> of the indymedia network.
>
> In line with this the details for "Wales" in the contact page
> should be similarly ammended:
> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/static/contact.html
> renaming Wales as IndyCymru, listing it at the end of the different
> imc details, and calling it a "related project".
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
> imc uk volunteer
> london
>
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