[Imc-uk-process] IndyCymru to be removed from list of (uk) IMC's

[Jack Cleaver]

ilyan wrote:

> I smelt a Witch Hunt at Sheffield and had my direct questions about
> what was going on in one workshop answered with what now are shown to
> be evasions, and there were no informative discussion on these lines
> in the general meetings there.   There were secret cliques at work.
> 
> Then there were snippets in emails about Tony Gosling.

Cliques, schisms and splits have been part of the history of radical
politics since politics was invented, and IMO the issues are usually
personal, not matters of substance. I don't know the people involved,
and anyway I'm not interested in playing those games.

I don't think this thread is properly about TG, witch or otherwise; it's
about whether IndyCymru should be listed on other IMC websites as an
IMC, when in point of fact it isn't. I think it was unhelpful to cite
the TG-related posting on their site as a reason for de-listing - if the
model had been open, and the editorial policy clear and public, then the
TG posting would have been completely irrelevant to the question at hand.

The real issue, IMO, is that their publishing model isn't open. It's not
clear to me whether this is the result of technical problems, or whether
it's deliberate policy. If it's deliberate policy, I don't think they
should be listed - open publishing is fundamental. If it's a technical
issue, that *may be* different - i.e. if we can help them to solve the
technical issue, and they then adopt an open model, perhaps any
remaining issues aren't as critical.

-- 
Jack.