[Imc-uk-process] IndyCymru to be removed from list of (uk) IMC's

[Tony]

Hello Ilyan

I know you have been trying to keep the Cymru site open and 
accountable - but there are still many basic issues about the site 
that need sorting before it can be 'officially' an imc. Everyone has 
turned a blind eye for many years to give the collective running the 
site space to iether apply or at least discuss the issues, we have 
always offered to help etc etc...

If you want to become an imc - the Cymru site needs to go through the 
New-imc application process - that sets out clearly the basic 
outlines - like open meetings, a broard base of supporting 
groups/networks in Wales, an Open posting system (no matter what 
software), no adverts on the site (ie. Adbusters) etc

Info on applications: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImc

Application form: http://newimc.indymedia.org/

If you want to argue for these issues - which are of course always 
debatable - then the new-imc list is the place : 
<new-imc at lists.indymedia.org>

It would be great if you could go through these forms as i think they 
would help start a debate in Wales about the site and help move the 
process forward.

The other option ?(which i am sure you won't want to do!) is to link 
up to the UK network as a sub-section - but we would have to ask for 
simular requirments if less burocratic.

cheers tony

>Message crossed with Tony. ( Not Gosling) There were five people who 
>could edit indycymru when I was added at the IMC Manchester meeting. 
>Since then at least one person dropped out fearing the legal 
>consequences.  One who appeared a dogmatic Marxist  was active for a 
>while, never turned up whenever I proposed meeting, and while still 
>listed as an editior does not appear to have been active.  He could 
>have been the same person who used the name Splottski in UK 
>Indymedia.   I never had a reply to my proposals about a statement 
>of intent.
>
>Everything that has come up in Indycymru for about a year has been 
>passed by me.   There has been one submission that I have not put up 
>without asking the sender to make clear or correct.  Apart from 
>that, nothing has been hidden, no comment deleted, and sometimes 
>items that have been hidden on UK have been put up in the hope of 
>starting a discussion.  Only once did that happen when there were 
>about a dozen comments.  (about 500 stories posted, about 600 
>comments drawn.)
>
>Although my name is no longer on the list of editors,  I still 
>function as such.    I may have more power than I know, and if I 
>knew what to do could perhaps restore the few links that were on the 
>front page that went useless when the server was refreshed. 
>Although inactive on the site, when the site went down recently, 
>probably for not paying its server, the one who set it up restored 
>the site.   I can have no complaint in that quarter, as  there are 
>almost certainly items going up that he would not agree with.
>
>After Aberystwyth, I added one name to the Editors - he had helped 
>raised the funds that enabled it to be set up originally.  He will 
>not be able to function untill he gets around to refreshing his 
>password.  Have one name I have met that I could add, but have yet 
>to find out if she is registered and so could be added to the 
>editors.   I am unwilling to add in people with pseudonyms who I 
>have not met.
>
>One of my problems is that on the 7th March all my back emails, and 
>all my email address lists vanished from Netscape in my computer. 
>Nothing else went.  Somewhere there may be some backup.  But it is 
>another lesson about keeping proper up to date backups.  - where you 
>can find them.
>Regards
>Ilyan
>
>
>
>Tony wrote:
>
>>I would tend to agree - when i was helping out on the new-imc list 
>>i tried many a time to have some dialogue with cymru imc but 
>>without any response - i can only guess apart from ilyan that there 
>>is little interest in the UK network or being official an IMC. It 
>>may still be worth posting the info to their site to attempt one 
>>last go... I am sure people who use the site are interested - only 
>>the site administrators (which seems very closed) are not.
>>
>>cheers tony
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