[Imc-uk-process] Re: IndyCymru

[ilyan]

That's allright,   It is probably all my fault for circulating the 
original indycymru group with the statement of intent that Portugal used 
to get accepted as IMC and suggesting  that indycymru took the same 
position.   That was fully open publishing with no hiding, but argue 
everything.   I was not then aware of the difficulties  that would come 
if  any irresponsible hooligan  (I am being rude to hooligans there 
perhaps) can post anything  into the group so that it becomes impossible 
to cope with the flood.     I do not know if that happened in Portugal  
but I have heard that things became too much for them and they merged 
with Galicia. 

I am a bit sensitive about witch hunts because apart from personal 
experience where I learned the importance of other people speaking up,  
two of the more imporant people in my life were the victims of witch 
hunts.  One spent eight years in one of Stalin's Gulags.   The best 
interpretation on the other person is that he was shot for deserting the 
International Brigade to go to find out for himself what was happening 
in  Catalonia.    Can anyone can tell me where I read the worst 
interpretation,- someone taxing Hemmingway for not reporting an 
execution of  gagged people ordered by an International Brigade 
political Commissar who said they were fascist spies? 

Do not worry, it is all a learning experience.   Which is what I try to 
make indycymru, and a symbolic link from conquered Wales to the 
international community of nations.  perhaps a daft idea,  but there is 
indycymru sourced stuff on IMCs from Al something-or-other to 
Zimbabwe.    via DC and Hawaii.   Someone even said thankyou.

That went last night only to Planet Mail.  It was intended for the list.  

The more diversity there is within an organisation, the stronger it 
is.    It may not be possible for a Portuguese style IMC to fit into 
United Collectives, and it may not be possible for such to exist without 
the obstacle of typing in any name, and a real email address to get your 
personal password, keeping out casual wreckers.

There are groups in Cardiff, Aberystwyth, and posssibly Bangor and 
Swansea who could form UK IMC groups.   Some of them contain some people 
who are so anti welsh it is better they do not set up as a Wales IMC.   
Others might be OK.
Regards
Ilyan



Planet Mail wrote:

> Hi,
>
> just to say richard, no one was demanding that Ilyan or
> indycymru answer any questions at all.
>
> they are not claiming to be part of the imc network, and
> neither are they demanding the same.
>
> Ilyan's just been updating us with what's been happening,
> which I'm grateful for. I just wanted to say this because I
> don't think it's fair to go demanding answers, as that's not
> what this situation's about at all.
>
> as stated people will and always have been up for offering
> support to a welsh imc.
>
> ciao,
> dave
>
>
> At 16:22 26/03/2004, richard hering wrote:
>
>> Hello Ilyan
>>
>> Your latest correspondence on this list unfortunately
>> does not answer any of the fundamental questions which
>> need answering before IndyCymru can be an imc.  Put
>> simply, are you and IndyCymru committed to the OPEN
>> PUBLISHING model according to imc guidelines?
>> What with all the stuff at Blackwood at the moment,
>> which members of our imc collective (oxford) have been
>> attending, it feels more important than ever right now
>> to have an active Welsh imc, but it has to follow the
>> fundamental principles.  So could you please answer
>> the above question about open publishing?
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>> richarddirecttv
>>
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