[New-imc] beach cities imc. Notice of intention to block

[Shayne O'Neill]

Sorry folks. Beach Cities smell all wrong to me.

No trust from this quarter.

I am going to ask the perth collective if we can block. I doubt there will
be dissent. Some of the featuer posts are really fucking offensive. And
could the beach cities kids pass on a message to the person who wrote the
imigration feature:: "Fuck you nazi pig".

Cheers,
Shayne.

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Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 xare at sindominio.net wrote:

> >
> > This is a problem I raised back when I was trying to start
> > IMC-Binghamton (currently on-hold). It seems to me that there are two
> > process features which are going to ultimately cause problems:
> >
> > 1) Strict Consensus -- I know this is has been discussed ad nauseum, but
> >    we all witnessed the global blocks by IMC Ithaca, and this has never
> > properly addressed, IMHO. Banning Arc simply swept this problem under
> > the carpet for a while. I suggest a 2/3 super-majority, assuming the
> > mission statement is never violated.
> >
> > 2) Lack of any kind of lefty-radical-progressive-counterculture
> > political
> >    litmus test.
> Well we do not have to go that far, in order to become an indymedia site
> you need to approve Principles of unity and Membership criteria.
>
> We have strong reasons to reject Beach cities:
> Principles of Unity
> 10. All IMC's shall be committed to the principle of human equality, and
> shall not discriminate, including discrimination based upon race, gender,
> age, class or sexual orientation. Recognizing the vast cultural traditions
> within the network, we are committed to building [diversity] within our
> localities.
>
> Well watching the features they offer it is clear that this collective in
> the Beach cities area cannot fulfill this minimum rule.
>
> And now membership criteria asks us to:
>
> Have open and public meetings (no one group can have exclusionary
> "ownership" of an IMC).
>
> Let's ask them to publish a public meeting. And start with their reach out
> they may found some leftwingers, also I know that maybe there are not as
> many of them as desired in the area.
>
> j. (NOT FINALIZED): Have no official affiliation with any political party,
> state or candidate for office (comments: but individual producers have
> freedom to do whatever they like and local IMCs can "feature" stories
> about various political parties and initiatives),
>
> Here again they do not respect the equality principle and they ask for the
> vote to Arnold Schwartzeneger.
>
> So things being like that:
> 1. We have to see if it is not a hoax and there is a collective asking us
> to belong to the network. I personally know what I will ask them. If the
> answers do not convince me then my answer will be a big NO.
> 2. Here in the "thing" (Spanis State) we try to help other indymedias
> (better sometimes worse other times not for political reasons anyway)
> flourishing near here (now Indymedia Asturies is on the way), would not be
> interesting if people from LA collective visit that collective and we get
> to know first hand what is going on? I don´t know how easy it would be.
> I've never been to the US, and I don´t know the dimensions. Here in Europe
> everything is so small... :-)) (small people, small villages, small
> countries...) and we even want it smaller ;-)
>
> Now seriously I think there is no much to matter, there are clear reasons
> IMHO to say No to this collective if they ever asked.
>
> If not it would just enter the collection of anecdotas of indymedia's
> history.
>
> Bye
>
>
>
>
>
>
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