[ahimsa-tech] TINA or TIAA, that is the question: was: Re: ahimsa-tech Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1

[boud]

hi libertinus,

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Libertinus wrote:

> what?
>
> why this? indymedia urbana what's doing? selling web service?

Ummmm.... dan says he's paying for the dedicated servers himself.
i'm not sure that giving him some "refund" is necessarily "buying".

> Im lost

>> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 14:32:28 -0600
>> From: "dan blah" <dan.blah at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ahimsa-tech] who am i and overview of U-C IMC tech
>> 	resources/facilities...

>> Existing server resources and space at the U-C IMC are available.  As
>> it is now, the U-C IMC pays for both power and bandwidth at the Urbana
>> facility.  We have older 20U+ racks laying around that could be used
>> as a dedicated racks as well as shelving for non rack mounted
>> equipment available.  The servers located within the U-C IMC are
>> administered by 4 U-C IMC tech group members who have 24/7 access to
>> the space.  The dedicated servers are available for use but funded out
>> of my own pocket and are thus not directly managed by the U-C IMC Tech
>> Group.
>>
>> As for the cost of bandwidth, power, space, and other services that
>> may be needed would have to be negotiated on a per proposal.  Be
>> assured that costs, if any, will be substantially lower than most
>> anything else out there.

On the other hand, this paragraph does sound a bit strange. Asking for
a refund for what he has spent from his own money is one thing, but here
it sounds like bargaining positions and power relations based on money 
are creeping in, under the idea "it's necessary (TINA)".

dan - it would be great if you could help UC IMC "non-techies" switch
to gnucash and/or sql-ledger (or some other free software money
management package).  We have the rather embarrassing situation that
they (you) have advertised for two Giga-$-corporations:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2006-September/0908-j2.html

There were two replies from UCIMC that i noticed:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2006-September/0919-xl.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-communication/2006-September/0919-jm.html

but they essentially said (as far as i understand them) "we were
forced to advertise for Giga-$-corporations because we couldn't find
any pratical alternative; therefore (implicitly) it's not advertising
because it was obligatory advertising: TINA".

also puzzled
boud