[axxs-sysadmin] Some improvements in the Open Source control panels

[aketus]

I liked Webmin but it didn't seem very user friendly for non-geeks who  
want to manage their own site. From what I understand, Virtualmin  
would be the area for domain managing (i.e non server stuff) which is  
good, but I didn't take a good look at Virtualmin to see if it was  
usable or not...

Having trouble finding time at the moment to do so but its installed  
on my local machine so I have no real excuse :) I'll check it out.
Otherwise, I think Webmin is great, but not very flashy and perhaps a  
bit daunting?

We should get some people who use Plesk on axxs to play with a demo  
themselves, they would be the ones using it most for domain management  
stuff. We could have Webmin installed anyway for sysadmin stuff or  
just use command line.

I agree, a great feature of Webmin is that it doesn't run on a mysql  
db, thats a big problem of Plesk - when mysql goes down, you can't get  
into the control panel to fix it, heh.
 From memory, when I installed Webmin, I believe it created itself a  
unique apache instance to run by itself. I.e I believe you can  
/etc/init.d/webmin stop|start

aketus


Quoting Cameron Gregg <cam at earthanarchy.org>:

> aketus wrote:
>> A small addition:
>>
>> WebCP written in PHP :/
>>
>> VHCP written PHP, Perl and C. Php GUI, the daemon is in C, the engine is
>> in Perl
>>
>>
>
> webcp does look nice, the feature list looks ok too. The demo login
> doesnt seem to have much enabled. best test this out.
>
> vhcs, havent looked at it, but sounds a big dangerous with all those
> different components, though that could make it strong...
>
> ...what i liked about webmin is that it didnt seem to fuck with the
> current debian setup, well not too much in the testing it did. it just
> read in the configs and wrote back to them. doesn't appear to be a mysql
> database backing the whole thing like plesk. i like minimal yet useful
> stuff like that. eg you can still create an apache vhost and a bind
> entries by hand and webmin just leaves them alone pretty much. I think
> this is how it works, havent tested it a whole heap.
>
> not sure why this is offlist, so I've forwarded it to the list.
>
> Cam
>
>
>
>> Quoting aketus
>>
>>> Cam and I have tested out quite a few alternatives to PLesk that are
>>> open source, and frankly none of them have really cut it. The closest
>>> was probably a combination of Webmin and Virtualmin, but not very
>>> intuitive, especially for non-geeks that want to manage their site.
>>>
>>> I've found a few more this morning, and  these look fucking impressive
>>>
>>> http://www.web-cp.net/
>>> Here is a demo for the 'stable' release
>>> http://gyrbo.madoka.be/web-cp/
>>> Username: admin Password: admin. Just click 'Home' in the top right
>>> corner after logging in.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.vhcs.net/
>>>
>>> Have a look at the demos (per user role) here
>>> http://www.vhcs.net/new/modules/wfchannel/index.php?pagenum=7
>>>
>>>
>>> These are what I have been looking for. Functional, 'click of a
>>> button' system that has enough shiny shit to be not too much of a
>>> learning curve from Plesk and attractive to non-geeks. VHCS appears to
>>> be especially easy in setting up subdomains, although one must specify
>>> a 'mount point' (which actually looks to me like a clever feature)
>>>
>>> Both have easy integration with phpMyadmin.
>>>
>
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aketus