[axxs-sysadmin] axxs in takedown message on adelaide indy

[Cameron Gregg]

Dave Fregon wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 11:09 +1000, Cameron Gregg wrote: 
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I requested a story to do with the darwin dispute be taken down from 
>>adelaide indy. They've taken it down and put up a takedown statement 
>>mentioning axxs. Not sure how this sits with people, so I thought I 
>>should direct your attention to it.
>>
>>http://adelaide.indymedia.org/newswire/display/17444/index.php
>>
>>"This article has been deleted with code: Policy Violation
>>Notes: by darwin mob
>>person quoted in article requeste dits removal due to flame war; also 
>>aimc server axxs is currently requiring take down of all such indymedia 
>>internal flames"
> 
> 
> I withdraw my call for disassociation with Indymedia, I was wrong to do
> so, it was frustration, and against my own words to boot.
> 
> This is independent of Adelaides support/action, which I appreciate
> personally the efforts of IMC's. Of course others can support my initial
> move for disassociation, my choice now is not. Yea, flipped around.
> 
> I personally am going to put energy into helping build a resolution
> policy at a network level with indymedia, and working on a way to
> approach that atm. Rather than whinge that it does not exist. I was
> wrong to use the same methods I talked about, rather than jumping in and
> making an attempt at improving things for all, this is more than
> indymedia, it's the basis for mutual aid and a free open society.
> 
> Dave

Hey Dave (and everyone),

I think the disassociating proposal is something which took people by 
surprise a bit, me at least. I can understand your position, but I can 
hardly support the booting of all indy's from axxs!

I think your efforts to develop dispute/crisis resolution processes is 
much needed within indymedia. We should all think about how it would 
relate to axxs as well. That is, how would this same situation with DIMC 
be handled if it were about a website that is unaffiliated with any 
network and was only responsible to itself? Like you've been saying 
Dave, this might happen again, but next time it might not be an 
indymedia site/problem.


Also, it would be good to define who is the 'axxs collective'. Is it 
everyone who does work on the box? only people with sudo?  people on 
this list? Some clarity of process all round would be good.



Cam