[axxs-sysadmin] decision-making
hugh trevelyan
hughcat at gmail.com
Sat Nov 25 17:07:53 PST 2006
On 26/11/06, Cameron Gregg wrote:
> hugh trevelyan wrote:
> > On 25/11/06, aketus > wrote:
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> > <snip>
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> >> P.S A reminder that folk can always use the channel #axxs on Indymedia
> >> IRC server (irc.indymedia.org) for real-time decision making for
> >> axxs.org and also for realtime tech support. A lot of good activity has
> >> come from some IRC discussion and also promotes quicker action, as
> >> opposed to mailing lists in which sometimes mail can be forgotten, lost
> >> or just grows cobwebs in the ether :)
> >
> > well IRC certainly has the wonderful benefit of immediacy and addresses
> > the serious problem that decision-making without an agreed time-frame
> > often results in no decision at all.
> >
> > I'm working full time now, away from my monitor. So my concern is being
> > left out of decisions that concern me. And IRC isn't even accessible in
> > retrospect as an archive, as listmail is.
> >
> > IRC is great for small matters that don't require consensus, and for staying
> > in touch. Ideally, important decisions include everyone concerned in all the
> > discussion. Even off-list discussions can undermine the process.
> >
> > I was about to write a proposal for our decision-making process, but
> > I think I should leave it to see how seriously we want to take it.
>
> > F'rinstance are we interested in consensus? It aint always easy. ;-)
>
> Definitely interested in consensus, and keeping it easy.
Me too. Thanks for addressing this. Others?
> I think what you've described is what generally goes on. eg sudo and
> hosting proposals go to the list, and the ongoing discussion of the new
> server is too...
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> Seems some others are getting a wiki up, so that should be helpful too.
Sounds good. Hope its taken up better than docs.cat was. Dunno if I/ we/
some of us were too technically illiterate or trying to cover too many formats.
As a tech-illiterate it took me a while to even figure out lists/
threads/ archives.
Maybe some wikis are more intuitive than docs.cat was?
> As for IRC, its good, makes our relationships a little more human. I
> don't really see any major decisions coming out of one particular IRC
> meet. Lots of smaller ones where all parties concerned have been present
> have.
yep, I agree.
cheers,
hugh
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