FYI netaxxs collective have agreed to purchasing a secondary IP to make setups faster on axxs.org .. tho we need to look at secondary nameservers off the server .. compcoll has agreed in the past to doing this .. just gotta get the show on the road. I will order the IP asap anyway Dave -- NetAxxs 20 Chisolm St Wangaratta 3677 Australia +613 5722 9622