[axxs-sysadmin] Web hosting

[Dave Fregon]

On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 23:50 -0800, Martin Pritchard wrote:
> Thanks for the detailed reply.

no probs, just my take on it there are others in the collective as well,
where it heads and what we do with the space is up to everyone involved.

> supporting your work and helping you to continue your
> work, I just feel $440 is a little steep b/c I'm
> basically just doing volunteer work to help exisitng
> social/environtal justice campaings / NGOs.

The 440 is what we charge commercial customers in NetAxxs.com.au, pays
the bills, and covers all the little extras and time that inevitably
comes up. A lot of our clients are for example wineries, which have no
idea about the web and internet, and you can spend days helping them
out :)

So ignore those prices Martin, they have nothing to do with Axxs.org,
just a collective of someone involved in it.

> - Happy to help out with AXXS where I can.

Great, well +1 from me, the more folk around the lighter the work, not
that there's a huge amount to do, usually just small things, but the
more minds on a problem when it occurs the better.

I gave a +1 yesterday, if we haven't heard from the others in another 2
days, I can provision your account, then it's up to them to complain
here if they have a problem :)

Have you joined the list?

Dave

> 
> Cheers,
> Marty
> 
> --- Dave Fregon <dave at netaxxs.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 16:30 -0800, Martin Pritchard
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Dave & the AXXS team,
> > 
> > <snip!>
> > 
> > > Can you assist with a discounted package or
> > suggest
> > > some other way that I might be able to contribute
> > > 'in-kind' support [promoting / assist a non-profit
> > set
> > > up  or manage a site ..?? ] in return for use of
> > one
> > > of your hosting services.
> > 
> > Heya Martin,
> > 
> > To give you a bit of a background ..
> > 
> > Axxs.org is different than netaxxs.com.au. Netaxxs
> > is the workers
> > collective I am involved in, that does commercial
> > sites and hosting so
> > we can live/survive (it's one of the few skills I
> > have, and I am by no
> > means a guru, ask anyone;) I do it to get by.
> > 
> > Basically a few folk left a commercial ISP operation
> > that wasn't looking
> > out for it's workers, and started something that is
> > more worker focussed
> > (equal pay, equal say, kinda stuff) We basically are
> > working to live,
> > not living to work;) and as part of our getting by,
> > as we got to the
> > point of being able too, funded axxs.org to get
> > started to share that
> > knowledge we are gaining, and to connect with other
> > geeks in the same
> > boss/employee boat that we found ourselves in. A
> > 'vision' down the track
> > was to form the basis of a union of tech workers,
> > using anarchist
> > principles as a basis for our organisation methods.
> > By no means to we
> > say we are pure anarchist in practice, but by golly,
> > we are trying our
> > best to get to that point and explore practical
> > ideas in that vein,
> > while surviving in the current climate, and feeding
> > ourselves.
> > transparency we see as the key.
> > 
> > Axxs.org is made up of various geeks from all walks
> > of life, and the
> > aims are dynamic, and basically come down to a group
> > decision on process
> > atm as things happen, and as we work to get things a
> > bit more solidified
> > in that regard.
> > 
> > So generally, people propose what they want to do on
> > this list, and what
> > they want to use the services for, and we as a group
> > make a decision on
> > that basis.
> > 
> > By all means, just chat to us about what your doing
> > or want to do, we
> > are all strong believers in mutual aid, and
> > supporting each other so
> > that we are all stronger for it, and that the
> > end-users also win out
> > because of that.
> > 
> > There's a lot to do in the way of organisation yet,
> > it's hard for many
> > as we are working at the same time, and not just
> > doing this in our 'free
> > time', but axxs.org unlike many 'open collectives',
> > recognise the worker
> > and supporting them to become self-sustainable
> > outside the traditional
> > employer situation. If that takes giving a platform
> > for someone to do
> > that, we discuss it openly and transparently. The
> > basis is transparency
> > in what we do. We can only learn from where we are
> > heading, and find out
> > how things will work as we go. treading new ground
> > as it was ...
> > 
> > I hope that makes sense ;) I've only been short, and
> > that's only my
> > take, one out of quite a few people involved in
> > axxs.org. So I suggest
> > you get together what your wanting to do (as you
> > have done in a way) and
> > we'll all see what we can do to help you, so that
> > you can help us, and
> > we can all help each other! (yay!;)
> > 
> > I personally give my support +1 to getting some
> > space for Martin
> > together to muck around, on the basis that he join
> > this list, and be
> > open to supporting and helping out sites on it where
> > and when he can.
> > ie: get involved and be transparent in his work on
> > the server
> > 
> > This also begs the question regarding the difference
> > between the geeks
> > with sudo access and thus a higher level
> > responsibility (not ability) as
> > compared to users that don't. I think breaking up
> > decision making into
> > the various areas of expertise/ability is a primary
> > focus, with a
> > methodology (such as a spokescouncil format) for
> > working between them,
> > we need to work out how we organise as things grow.
> > break in periods if
> > needed, etc etc etc etc etc ad infinitum :) sigh
> > hehe lots to do
> > 
> > we need that wiki, should I just setup a temp ZWiki
> > on axxs.org main
> > site? would take 5 mins .....
> > 
> > cheers Martin, all.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martin 
> > > 0403 440 996
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Dave Fregon <dave at netaxxs.com.au> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:26 +1100, rachel
> > kitchener
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > If its not too late notice, it sounds like
> > this
> > > > monday night (the
> > > > > 12th) would suit quite a few people... Perhaps
> > at
> > > > the abbotsford
> > > > > lentils? maybe 6:30? Does that sound good?
> > > > > Rachel
> > > > 
> > > > I have to apologise for not being able to make
> > it,
> > > > I'm up in Wangaratta,
> > > > and also committed to a Friends of Lacluta
> > meeting
> > > > up here on that
> > > > night.
> > > > 
> > > > These next 2 weeks are solid for me moving house
> > at
> > > > the same time, but
> > > > after that if we can get a regular day, I may be
> > > > able to make it, of
> > > > course, weeknights are hard for me, due to work
> > > > commitments. It's around
> > > > 3hrs down there, and 3 hrs back.
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to put forward that any services
> > that
> > > > our workers
> > > > collective can provide, as Rachel knows, are
> > there
> > > > for this project, so
> > > > feel free to organise anything around that.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > 
> > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 2/3/07, rachel kitchener
> > <fudge714 at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >         Hey everyone,
> > > > >         I've spoken to each of you over the
> > past 6
> > > > months about
> > > > >         starting an organisation to network
> > and
> > > > promote co-ops and
> > > > >         other kinds of solidarity economy
> > > > ventures. Examples of this
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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