[axxs-sysadmin] Aussie tech fed?

[Dave Fregon]

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 12:41 +1100, and wrote:
> On 14/02/2007, at 5:11 PM, aketus wrote:
> 
> > This sounds like a good idea... kind of like an Aussie FreeGeek :-)
> 
> what about the non-aussies? or those of us who don't want to identify  
> as aussies? Oi! Oi! Oi!! :)

yes, well, I was thinking local rather than global. I think virtual
global organising is good, but I think also being able to be on the
streets in support of comrades in the industries is a good thing too,
and be solidly open to workers at all levels in the industry. I think
having a more local focus, with affiliation with a global network, a lot
better way to start out without crawling thru what others have already
done.

I am strong of the opinion we shouldn't double up, and if you're
interested in a world-wide representation of where I think we should
head with a 'union' of tech/geek workers, look at IU560
(http://www.iww.org/unions/dept500/iu560/), you can subscribe to their
list at iu560-l-request at iww.org with the word subscribe in the subject.

I am keen however to get a lot of _local_ geeks and workers organised on
our 'island', so that we can have a local affiliated group of
techs/geeks working af filiated with the ASF/IWW for mutual aid. I would
like to see others do the same in their area of the world, without us
trying to encompass the lot. I think iu560 does that. I think also that
we work thru the local chapters that are in existence in Ausfailure
today, with a rich history. We for instance have a fella from Benalla
that comes in and helps out, he has worked help-desk and phones etc in
an ISP, and would be very interested in a union such as this, focussed
on mechanics of stuff relevant to him. A global virtual list is good in
one way, but I don't see it appealing to a local level worker in the
industry, as much as something more focussed to our struggles locally.

I think we should actively encourage other regional groups to do the
same, affiliated with us here in Australia. Yes axxs.org is
trans-global, but that does not mean we cannot start at local chapters,
working together using an existing (and strong) structure such as the
ASF/IWW etc.

Why re-invent the wheel? exactly. I think there is structure and a great
ideology that sums up where I was going with the proposal more fully
than my first take on it, and regardless of whether members of the
collective wish to join a 'workers union', I would like to still propose
that we support one.

Haing an open list, folk wouldn't necessarily have to join the IWW, but
by golly I reckon it would be a great way of jumping a LOT of headaches
and effort to work together, rather than separately. it is basically the
same ideology.

We have iww.org.au on the server, I have cc'd them as well as the ASF so
that they may care to have some input on this.

I would like to see this move ahead, and strongly. The more minds on
this idea the better.

So, a list for organising and discussing this, is my proposal, whatever
the name, whether others in the collective wish to be involved actively
or not, I think a list for discussing and promoting this idea would be
great.

Dave


> And.
> 
> >
> > I'd hope to get AptGetAnarchy.org used as a sort of knowledge base /
> > think tank area for folk like this too... I'm sure it could all tie-in
> >
> > aketus
> >
> >
> > Dave Fregon wrote:
> >> pabs mentioned in IRC how some groups are starting to spring up  
> >> around
> >> tech stuff ... and how it would be a good idea to 'have a list where
> >> geeks from all such groups in .au could gather'
> >>
> >> I'd like to put this as a proposal that we start this and provide the
> >> initial services to get this started, in providing a mailing list off
> >> axxs.org as a basis for it's growth, and initial posts over how we
> >> organise.
> >>
> >> it comes down to the name for it ..as a secondary to the proposal.
> >>
> >> .. for that I propose OBATU at axxs.org
> >>
> >> One Big Aussie Tech Union :)
> >>
> >> (oh well, humour me and come up with something ;) I was thinking  
> >> that or
> >> OBAGU (One Big Aussie Geek Union) .. I dunno
> >>
> >> anyway something I have been thinking about for a long time, as I  
> >> have
> >> mentioned in so many posts in the past, and was the ideas over  
> >> what bred
> >> axxs.org ;) we should get out there and connect, and also drive an
> >> anarchist approach to it as a basis of organisation within it as a
> >> federation of collectives and individuals too. (ie: spokecouncil  
> >> formats
> >> etc, mutual aid, etc)
> >>
> >> This could also come to encompass people like help-desk workers,
> >> networking folk etc etc.
> >>
> >> also, there's a list started up by one of the people and sites  
> >> axxs.org
> >> hosts some may be interested in ..
> >>
> >> http://lists.constructivecriticism.net/mailman/listinfo/coopnetwork
> >>
> >> already had a meeting, the next one : Monday 26th Feb @ 6.30 @  
> >> Lentils
> >> in Abbotsford
> >>
> >> I'm going to try and make that one, as I missed the last.
> >>
> >> Davo
> >>
> >>
> >
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