[axxs-sysadmin] Fwd: [Basebox-team] Email lists, activist ISPs, anyone?

[Dave Fregon]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 15:40 +1100, aketus wrote:
> You could try CompColl (EmmaG at anarchy.org.au) who run the Xchange  
> Server (i.e anarchy.org.au), of which at least two Axxs members are  
> also members of, however CompColl may require a (very) small fee to  
> provide hosting (unlike axxs which doesn't explicitly ask for payment  
> for hosting)

Probably to be a little more explicit about CompColl ..

axxs.org tends to have collective members take on the responsibility of
a hosting situation, by backing the request, and they have the
responsibility of domains they 'sponsor'. If no-one else objects in 3
days (as it currently stands), they can go ahead, and a decision to
remove a domain from a 'sponsored' collective members account has to be
brought publically before this list for a decision. This was to avoid
bottlenecks, and give the workers in the collective _more freedom_ as
workers.

The focus of axxs.org has and is more toward empowering the geeks on it
to be able to use and share a space for their projects and provide
mutual aid to each other, to try and get sustainable in what we do, and
grow that, the focus is more on empowering us the workers ourselves,
than in providing necessarily 'free hosting space', yes some of us
choose to do it (like my +1 for red libertaria recently) Axxs.org
started with providing a Plesk control panel, as with our small number
to start with, it was the only way to avoid bottlenecks with small
requests that can 'flood' for example our workers collective, and be
able to expand to the point it is.

CompColl however is a collective that all supports a collective decision
before a hosting situation goes ahead from all members, it's the groups
responsibility, CompColl has servers in Australia, and is locally
supported and should be. It is an anarchist effort, with anarchists
organising within it, whereas axxs.org is not specifically anarchist,
but autonom/activist oriented, with a strong anarchist presence and
influence in it's decision making and focusses. CompColl work in full
solidarity with those it hosts through joint agreement and mutual aid.
CompColls costs are also a lot higher, as the hardware and machines are
totally in the local 'Australian' anarchist space, with full physical
access to hardware and configurability of the network it's on.

I recommend myself that groups that are 'local' to CompColl, and are
anarchist, support the CompColl efforts, rather than just look at 'cheap
hosting' thru axxs.org. Especially when that comes to security, as
CompColl are very well aware of the needs of anarchist groups and
security within communications and the like. We have people in axxs.org
that are not anarchist (I think?;) that have ROOT access and is based
more on trust between us as workers. If you only want other anarchists
affiliated with an anarchist collective both yourselves and they have
agreed upon having possible access to your data and communications, talk
to CompColl at xchange.

well that's how I see axxs.org (gawd i give a lot of how I see it, how
do others at this point in time?)

Dave

> 
> I don't know of any other local groups, after these two I would be  
> trying riseup
> 
> aketus
> 
> 
> Quoting and <and at axxs.org>:
> 
> > just wonderig if people can help me out with this question forwarded  here.
> > Is axxs the only place like this in the region now? are there other
> > groups dedicated to hosting/services for non-profits? or do people
> > know of others globally or a good place to find a list of them?
> >
> > cheers.
> > And.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Amanda B Hickman <amanda at velociraptor.info>
> >> Date: 16 February 2007 1:41:07 AM
> >> To: basebox-team at lists.ngoinabox.org
> >> Subject: [Basebox-team] Email lists, activist ISPs, anyone?
> >> Reply-To: basebox-team at lists.ngoinabox.org
> >>
> >> I'm trying to pull together a broad list of, among other things,    
> >> groups that provide ICT resources to NPOs, particularly groups that  
> >>   are mission driven or have an explicit commitment to supporting    
> >> organizing work and protecting the privacy of user data.
> >>
> >> I know that Kabissa offers web and email hosting, Riseup.net is one  
> >>   of a handful of US-based groups that offers hosting and email   
> >> lists  to radicals.
> >>
> >> I've been working on a page on the wiki that includes a fair number  
> >>   of resources, but they lean very heavily towards US-based programs:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.ngoinabox.org/post/main/03W8-0FIqXTH7Xs7
> >>
> >> I'd love some suggestions and leads on non-US groups that offer    
> >> technical assistance, hosting services, email lists and other ICT    
> >> help to organizers and activists.
> >>
> >> Regionally specific groups would be great, these don't have to be    
> >> international resources.
> >>
> >> You can email me, add to the wiki, or if you are a http://   
> >> del.icio.us user you can tag links "for:amanda_bee" and I'd find   
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Amanda
> >>
> >> -
> 
> 
> 
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