[axxs-sysadmin] proposal: hosting torun on axxs

[Cameron Gregg]

boud wrote:
> hi axxs-sysadmin,  (cc: imc-pl-torun)
> 
> PROPOSAL: This is a proposal for the going-through-new-imc-process IMC Torun
> to be hosted on one of the axxs community servers - initial hostname
> would be  torun.axxs.org  pending completion of the new-imc process.
> 


Sounds good to me.

Not sure about postgres/ruby on the current box. You may have to install 
them. Will that affect performance? Have we got enough RAM? Or maybe 
wait a little longer for the new box?

Cam


> SIDE-PROPOSAL: i'm suggesting to also open a samizdat demo site:
>   samizdat.axxs.org
> since there's almost negligible extra effort to add a new site to 
> an existing samizdat installation (a samizdat site config file, an apache
> config, and an extra two lines in the main samizdat config file,
> are sufficient).  This would be for people on imc-cms and imc-alternatives
> to get a feel for samizdat.
> 
> 
> THE NITTY-GRITTY:
> You can see the first part of our contact with new-imc here - we're
> just waiting to make some language corrections before sending it to the
> new-imc group - skip the polish, most sections have an english translation:
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/ImcTorunNewImcKrok3
> 
> If you don't know much about Torun, it's a city in Poland where a
> revolutionary who claimed that the Earth revolves around the Sun was
> born half a millenium ago. More details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torun
> 
> Software requirements:
> 
> * samizdat CMS: 
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/samizdat/samizdat-0.6.0.tar.gz
> 
> Yes, it really is only 165kb! that's not a typo (mir-1.1 is 6.1M,
> drupal-4.7.4 is 480k) - so for anyone wishing to understand how an
> indymedia CMS can be so tiny but still be clear, easy to understand
> and have most of the basic indymedia type features, feel free to have
> a look once it's installed or play around with it yourself. Anyway...
> 
> * apache
> * postgresql 
> * ruby
> 
> Standard versions from debian stable are sufficient, and for redhat i
> assume that either rpm's or installation for source should not be difficult
> for postgresql and/or ruby.
> 
> 
> Hardware loads:
> 
> * diskspace - so far Torun articles/photos from the imc poland site
> take up about 24Mb. Probably we'll continue to recommend video.indymedia.org
> for videos, as well as doing gnash type stuff should be part of future
> samizdat development.
> 
> * bandwidth + apache cpu load - hard to say. The population is about
> 200,000, about 0.5% of Poland's population, but since it's a town,
> people are better internet connected than in the countryside, and
> since there's an active human rights + animal rights activism
> community here, we should probably expect more than 0.5% of the poland.
> Suppose Torun would be about 10% of the whole imc poland load.
> 
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/axxs-sysadmin/2006-November/1110-el.html
> 
>> 60-100 Gb/month =  2-3 Gb/day,  1.5-2 million hits/month
> 
> So Torun would be about 6-10Gb/month, 0.15-0.2 million hits/month
> = 0.2-0.3Gb/day.
> 
> * postgresql/ruby cpu load - samizdat does not (at the moment) expect
> to be separated into dynamic and static servers (though apparently this 
> could be done relatively easily), so there would be some extra cpu load
> relative to a static site. Experience on existing samizdat servers suggests
> that this would a relatively small load.
> 
> 
> 
> People:
> 
> boud at riseup net
> crom666 at o2 pl  (not yet frequent internet user)
> angdraug at riseup net  (busy - belarus makes howard look democratic)
> 
> Apart from me, we have another local guy, crom666, who at the moment
> has weak internet access. angdraug from imc belarus is the main
> author of samizdat - he's a debian developer :) - and is usually busy,
> but if i got taken away by aliens and you heard nothing from crom666, 
> angdraug would probably be able to help if needed.
> 
> For anyone interested in the imc-cms process, here's the samizdat report:
> http://techmeet.sarava.org/English/CMSSurveyReportSamizdat
> 
> 
> i found samizdat quite easy to install on a test server, so i don't
> see any obvious difficulties on axxs servers.
> 
> horizontalidad
> boud
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