[axxs-sysadmin] Aotearoa IMC on borg.axxs.org

[Sebastian]

tena koutou katoa...

* boud <boud at riseup.net> [2007-05-27 09:42 +1200]:
> On Sat, 26 May 2007, Sebastian wrote:
> 
> >unfortunately, the whole Drupal situation is not in a state where we can
> >switch from Dada on the old server to Drupal on the new. but as the old
> >server still has substantial database problems (caused by our site as
> >well), i reckon we should get Dada over to the new server better sooner
> >than later.
> 
> Maybe wait a few more days to be sure, but it seems that the mysql
> overload problem was really the persistent connections option.

it seems to be better now. i got one automatic mail about the site not
reachable last night, though.
still mysql seems to eat lots of CPU time according to top.


> >i am totally happy to setup everything necessary on the new server on my
> >own, given sudo access. recently, i looked at wiki.axxs.org and could
> >not see documentation regarding custom setup (yet). is there anything i
> >should take care of? the question also is if you trust me enough.
> >or perhaps you do not feel ready˙˙for sites to migrate. :)
> >my GPG key can be found here:
> >http://keys.indymedia.org/cgi-bin/lookup?op=get&search=A9ED38844A1F5E81
> >
> >presumably, i won't be able to effectively hang around on #axxs much and
> >definitely have no time to babysit other projects on the server. an
> >occasional fix here and there should be in order, though.
> 
> Do you know dada well enough and follow its mailing lists (and i guess
> imc-security) to be alerted when exploits are discovered? A bunch of 
> dada indymedia sites got cracked some time ago (last 12 months AFAIR)
> and some were quite slow to get patched.

i reckon everything on the mailing lists is covered, plus the issue
raised on imc-tech a while ago.


> Since we seem to have solved the mysql overload problem, IMHO there is
> probably no rush to shift to borg if you're not yet ready to
> install/migrate to drupal. IMHO it would probably be better to try the
> migration from dada at www.axxs to drupal at borg rather than install dada on
> borg.

i totally agree to that.


> For what it's worth, if you can understand the drupal database structure
> well enough, then this dada2mir perl script might help for making a 
> dada2drupal script. 
> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/DadaToMir
> 
> And a rough (not just click and wait) dada2drupal script also seems
> to be available:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-drupal-dev/2007-May/0507-v2.html

i did a conversion script a year ago which never got completed (only
articles, comments and users, no media for instance), one of the reasons
being Drupal not ready at all.

these guys seem to be more complete but rely on Drupal 4.7 whereas we
want to build upon Drupal 5. they also require modules we do notneed
for our test site and are perhaps unnecessary for Drupal 5.


> Ah, i see you have a drupal test site and it's not quite doing what
> you want:
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-drupal-dev/2007-February/thread.html

the hiding issue is solved in a way (i wrote a module). our major show
stoppers at the moment are style sheet issues in Internet Exploiter and
the conversion script. also, the recently updated captcha module needs
to be tested.


> So i understand that you'd prefer to shift to another dada instance rather
> than jumping into drupal when you're not ready.

yup.

personally, i wanted to look into projects like samizdat or this
plone-based thing whose name i forgot, but a few months ago another
volunteer of the collective (with a background of graphics design) had a
stab at Drupal and i wanted to support him. now the efforts have slowed
down - the site is working fairly well and the issues some people have
are not too bad.


> Well, if you follow the dada security alert list, wherever that is
> (and imc-security as well since at least some dada people have trouble
> getting reactions from the dada mailing lists ), then i guess it probably
> can't hurt. (i'm not actually on imc-security since i'm on the upstream
> dev list for samizdat and any exploits would very likely go there first
> rather than imc-security).

yes, so many things to follow. *sigh*


cheers,
 Sebastian

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