[Boston-editorial] center article?

[Sofia JarrinT]

I agree with the "apprenticeship" (wow! long word)
process, indeed.  It's such a good article that I got
overexcited.  sorry.  I leave it up to you guys/gals
to decide unhiding.  I don't have access to the
internet yet (moved homes), so I'm not sure I'll be
checking email this weekend.

Sharpie-san, the ball's on your court ;)

sj

--- Matthew Williams <mw21 at mindspring.com> wrote:

> The interview looks OK to me. Is there a reason it
> was hidden?
> 
> As a general rule, I don't think checking in on
> whether or not to 
> center an article makes sense. We've developed the
> center column 
> guidelines collectively to guide our individual
> decisions. The only 
> time folks really need to check in is if something
> is iffy. That way we 
> can get article up promptly. Occasionally, there are
> disagreements, 
> when one person thinks something that someone else
> centered is 
> inappropriate, but those are surprisingly few. But
> we've been over this 
> before and I've no desire to beat dead horses ...
> 
> In this particular case though, I would have liked
> it if Sofia had 
> waited for a response before centering it. Why?
> Because she's a new 
> editor and still learning the ropes. Indeed, when we
> agreed to make you 
> an editor, you had indicated you would check in on
> things like this, 
> Sofia. It's what Tim did when he first became an
> editor, last fall. 
> It's what I did when I first became en editor, a
> couple years ago. I 
> don't think this "apprenticeship" period would need
> to last very 
> long--a month or so, depending on how active you are
> in editing. I know 
> you've been lurking on this a while, which means you
> probably have a 
> good sense of how we make decisions, but it would
> still be good for you 
> to check in--you're now actively applying the
> criteria we developed, 
> instead of passively watching others do so, and it
> would be good to 
> make sure that you're on the same page as the rest
> of us (in so far as 
> any of us are on the same page) now that you're
> actively involved. That 
> way we can keep any mistakes and resulting heated
> exchanges to a 
> minimum. This is a as much about keeping the peace
> in the collective as 
> it is making sure we have good material in our
> center column.
> 
> Last editorial meeting, we agreed we'd like to
> revisit the center 
> column guidelines sometime in the near future (after
> we finish revising 
> the general editorial policy, which Pete should be
> drafting based on 
> our collective in-put at the last meeting). If all
> of you who are new 
> editors get actively involved in that conversation,
> that would actually 
> be really good--then we'll all have been a part of
> deciding on the 
> guidelines and everyone will have an active
> understanding of what they 
> are.
> 
> bread and roses,
> Matt
> 
> On Jun 3, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Sofia JarrinT wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> > yup, I know we've talked about this many times.
> It's
> > hard.  We mentioned letting at least 1 day to go
> by to
> > allow members weigh in, unless it's a timely
> issue. We
> > also mentioned having at least 2 members say yes,
> and
> > then moving forward.  I guess for something as
> > sensitive as this, I should have waited 1 day.
> >
> > Ps: I don't think Jay is with MFSO.  See his bio
> at
> > the end of the article:
> >
> > Jay Shaft is a freelance writer and the editor for
> an
> > independent news group Coalition for Free Thought
> In
> > Media http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFTMGroup. He
> has
> > covered numerous issues, including homelessness
> and
> > poverty, human rights, the use of cluster bombs
> and
> > depleted uranium, civilian and military deaths in
> the
> > ongoing US-led wars and occupations, and civil
> > liberties and freedom.
> >
> > Jay has conducted many interviews with soldiers
> who
> > have served in Iraq, in which service members
> exposed
> > the issues of the military's failure to provide
> proper
> > equipment and training to US troops, and he has
> been
> > on the forefront of investigating the price that
> > soldiers are paying as a result.
> >
> > Jay has also published many letters from parents
> > speaking out against the deaths of their children
> > serving in Iraq.
> >
> > SEE:
> > A US Soldier Writes From Iraq
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0402/S00088.htm
> >
> > Letter From A Soldier's Mother: Soldier's Are Not
> > Combat Ready!
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0402/S00099.htm
> >
> > For Families of Some Killed in Iraq: Grief,
> Outrage
> > and Protest
> >
>
http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=705
> >
> > Celeste Zappala Interview "The pain of my son's
> death
> > does not get any better, it just gets worse as
> time
> > goes on."
> > http://www.williambowles.info/iraq/zappala.html
> >
> > Sue Niederer Interview- President Bush, You Killed
> My
> > Son!
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0409/S00032.htm
> >
> > 8/29 RNC/NYC Anti-War Protest Interview With Sue
> > Niederer
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0408/S00302.htm
> >
> > US Soldiers to America: Bring Us Home Now (Part 5
> > linked to other 4 parts in series)
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00195.htm
> >
> >
> > --- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:
> >
> >> Hey sofia, thanks. I just emailed Jay asking him
> for
> >> the contact info of
> >> his  connection at MFSO, hopefully we'll hear
> back
> >> soon.
> >>
> >> To everyone on the list, this is my main concern
> >> with letting folks just
> >> center things after such a short period of time.
> >> Obviously Sofia had the
> >> best of intentions, but I had a concern that she
> >> just didn't consider.
> >> This is why I think we should have a more ordered
> >> process for centering
> >> articles.
> >>
> >> I think if someone from within the collective
> were
> >> to say "yo, i'm going
> >> to write an article about fred phelps" that's one
> >> thing, and perhaps we
> >> can figure out a way to make it clear that each
> >> article written by a
> >> collective member reflects their specific take on
> >> our collectively agreed
> >> upon process/mission. But if its from the
> newswire,
> >> I feel like there
> >> definitely needs to be a more specific process
> for
> >> centering.
> >>
> >> peace
> >> sharpie
> >> PS its my feeling that there should be a more
> >> ordered process for all
> >> "features" but I am certainly more willing to
> bend
> >> on collective members'
> >> work
> >>
> >>> oh, I'm sorry!! I just centered it.  Should I
> put
> 
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