[Boston-editorial] Re: centering Iraq soldier article

[Sofia JarrinT]

hey you,

Jay's article has already been posted on a few
indymedia sites so I rest my case:

http://indymedia.us/es/2005/06/7921.shtml
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/128045.php
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=70102

And USA Today for a previous interview:
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/bio/userletter/?letter_id=303895236&content_dir=congressorg

If he's making up stuff, he's a real pro. I'm going to
ahead and turn it back into a newswire item (without
centering).  The AxisofLogic people seem to have a
personal fight with Jay, as one of its members used to
work with him:

"I have also served as one of the monitors on CFTM
whose task it was to remove articles from CFTM which
were inappropriate in one way or another. I have
discontinued my service to and any affiliation with
Coalition for Free Thought in Media."

peace,
sofia
--- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:

> Hey folks, I want to present a something to consider
> on this issue:
> 
>
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_5106.shtml
> 
> This shows another website which has had some issues
> and some questions
> about the authenticity of Mr. Shafts work. I think
> it is important to
> consider this, as well as his lack of response in
> getting back to us.
> 
> Also, he does not appear to have a website, and as
> per this email, appears
> that he may not be the most stable/reliable of
> people:
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coalitionforfreethoughtinmedia/message/1
> 
> His "open publishing" source is only a yahoogroups.
> 
> please consider these things, and let me know if
> those of you who support
> centering his article still agree.
> 
> thanks!
> solidarity
> sharpie
> 
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > I strongly encourage you both to re-read the
> article
> > and search through Jay's web site.  The more you
> look
> > into it, the more credibility it has (also see
> Tim's
> > email on this). The rest of his postings are not
> > interviews, they are letters of soldiers that he
> has
> > posted on his website:
> >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFTMGroup/message/491
> >
> > Here is a "letter to the editor" he got, in
> response
> > to his article:
> >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFTMGroup/message/665
> >
> > He has also written other articles on poverty and
> so
> > forth:
> >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFTMGroup/message/706
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFTMGroup/message/705
> >
> > And, here is an article on Salon.com that shows
> some
> > of the emotional and physical reactions that
> soldiers
> > with PTSD have when they come back home:
> >
> >
>
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/06/07/whistleblower/index_np.html
> >
> > I don't think we should weigh this article on
> Jay's
> > response or not.  I don't think we have a policy
> that
> > unless the author contact us, we'll center the
> article
> > or not.  In regards to timeliness, the interview
> was
> > originally done in January (as Jay mentions on the
> > article), so it's not really tied to an "event".
> >
> > Just one more thing, his website promotes an open
> > newswire like us and it is another good example of
> > collective indy media, and I really don't mind
> > promoting it (as well as hopefully attracting some
> of
> > his writers to our site as well).
> >
> > cheers
> > Sofia
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> oops, I just emailed sofia and sharpie off list
> by
> >> accident.
> >>
> >> So far we are deadlocked.  I was ready to stand
> >> aside
> >> because I thought I was alone on this but since
> >> sharpie feels the same as I it gives me more
> >> confidence in my feeling that something is amiss
> in
> >> this article.
> >>
> >> To break the deadlock I suggest first of all
> >> somebody
> >> re-send the link to the list, I can't find the
> damn
> >> article anymore. Second of all we get a hold of
> Jay.
> >>
> >> Thirds of all we inspect his other stories and so
> >> on.
> >>
> >>
> >> THis story is getting stale, but he may post more
> in
> >> the future.
> >>
> >> One thing I thought was odd when I originally
> looked
> >> at Jay's links is it is all interviews with
> >> soldiers.
> >> A one subject guy.  I wonder how many of those
> were
> >> anonymous?  all?
> >>
> >> -Pete
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Sofia JarrinT <sofiajt at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > hi,
> >> > This brings up an issue on how consensus and
> >> > blocking
> >> > powers work for centering articles.  There are
> 4
> >> > people (tim, jon, matthew, and I) who think we
> >> > should
> >> > feature it and 2 others (Pete and yourself) who
> >> > don't.
> >> >  Have you guys run into this before? What do
> you
> >> do
> >> > in
> >> > this case?
> >> >
> >> > I do think it's newsworthy since the only other
> >> > feature we've had about Iraq is protests. It
> would
> >> > be
> >> > nice to have something with more meat in it,
> and
> >> > this
> >> > is a personal account of a soldier.  I re-read
> the
> >> > article and think it's very genuine.
> >> >
> >> > cheers,
> >> > Sofia
> >> > Ps: sorry, I should have sent the original
> email
> >> to
> >> > the BIM Editorial list to begin with.
> >> >
> >> > --- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hey Sofia, I still feel how I said I felt
> >> before,
> >> > > that the article doesn't
> >> > > ring true to me, it feels a little shady, and
> I
> >> > also
> >> > > just don't feel
> >> > > there's much newsworthy merit to it.
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree as well with the things Pete said
> about
> >> > the
> >> > > article, and I think
> >> > > that if Jay really wants his article to be
> >> > featured
> >> > > on Boston Indymedia,
> >> > > the least he could do is to write at least
> one
> >> of
> >> > us
> >> > > back.
> >> > >
> >> > > But I'd like to hear Pete's thoughts.
> >> > >
> >> > > peace
> >> > > sharpie
> >> > >
> >> > > > hi guys,
> >> > > >
> 
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