[Boston-editorial] centering article

[TL]

.....umm before this turns into something more heated
and off-topic i guess ill put my two cents in gently.
(I really hope Pete doesnt weigh in before i finish
typing this, just kidding...kinda) 
Now Im not really for centering this but not really
because of whats been discussed. though we dont
usually post announcements outside our own i think
this could qualify pretty easily w/o to exceptional an
argument (in fact Sofia if you just brought it up in
person and smiled youd probably convice me... j/k
again Im just too much today) 
seriously though why i oppose it is mainly the time
factor. i mean its like 3 monthes away by the august
it wont even be on the homepage anymore. i think
leaving it on the newswire is fine now and then maybe
(though longer more in depth peice would be nicer) in
future we can center it. 
 

--- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:

> specific groups mentioned in article here:
> 
> "Disunity at the national level invites disunity
> locally. In Boston many
> groups united for March 20th including: United for
> Justice with Peace,
> Boston Mobilization, District 7 activists,
> International Action Center,
> numerous campus, community, socialist, and labor
> groups, plus countless
> individuals. Are we going to divide in Boston along
> lines of
> organizational loyalty to one or another national
> coalition? The urgency
> of the war and its consequences don't permit us to
> be divided."
> 
> specifically, the 2nd sentence.
> 
> And, although this begins to get outside the bounds
> of editorial group
> discussion, I would contend that the reason we don't
> "get anywhere" is
> that anarchists and working people are not spending
> enough time organizing
> ini a non-hierarchal and providing trainings and
> resources to the populace
> as a whole; while IAC, WW, UFPJ and other
> hierarchical groups are
> utilizing their power, calling for mass
> demonstrations, and ensuring their
> own continuity by failing to give regular folks the
> tools to change their
> lives themselves.
> 
> but again, this is the editorial list. and i stand
> by my *initial issue*
> with the post, which is that it is an announcement.
> If we weren't willing
> to post the "article" about the *local* boston
> anarchist network meeting,
> we shouldn't be posting an announcement about a
> *national* mobilization
> for some hitherto unheard of group. And I seem to
> remember you were the
> one who initially made the case against that post.
> 
> just my opinion.
> 
> peace
> sharpie
> 
> > hi,
> > I'm really opposed to not posting something
> because we
> > "suspect" or do not agree with another group's
> > politics.  Unless the article is misleading or
> badly
> > written, every article on its own should be
> weighed on
> > its own virtues instead of who wrote it or by what
> > group.
> >
> > The piece does not mention ANY particular group
> but
> > instead individuals (youth, veterans, soldiers,
> > working men and women, families, communities of
> color,
> > immigrants, seniors, and trade unionists) who
> pertain
> > to those groups, so no, it's not misleading.  I
> think
> > you're missing the main point of the piece which
> is a
> > call for unity.  That's exactly why no groups are
> > mentioned...  Because it would create an endless
> > bickery of self-importance that just wastes time,
> in
> > my humble opinion.
> >
> > I mean, isn't that why we "liberals" "anarchists"
> > "socialists" "communists" "progressives" don't get
> > anywhere?  Because we can't congratulate each
> other on
> > a job well done.  We love to just criticize every
> > group's action or non-action.  A balance of both
> > (specially if it's constructive criticism) would
> be
> > nice for a change.
> >
> > luv,
> > sofia
> >
> >
> >
> > --- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:
> >
> >> Thats' what interviewing people is about. Its not
> >> your opinion if you get
> >> some quotes from folks who are organizing the
> >> event... You may have not
> >> seen this section of the community but it is out
> >> there. UFPJ and similar
> >> groups are well known to the activist anti-war
> >> community.
> >>
> >> furthermore, although whoever wrote this
> >> announcement mentions many groups
> >> involved in march 20th, it makes no mention of
> the
> >> anarchists, who
> >> released one of the only calls for action on that
> >> day, and whose march
> >> resulted in being assaulted by the police and
> >> numerous arrests.
> >>
> >> Having read this further I not only find it to be
> an
> >> annoucement, I also
> >> find it to be misleading about how it represents
> the
> >> events of March 20th.
> >> I think if you follow it to the source you'll
> find
> >> quickly that the
> >> "Committee for a Fall Action" is actually a front
> >> group for one of our
> >> usual suspects...
> >>
> >> solidarity
> >> sharpie
> >>
> >> > More than an announcement, it's a call for
> >> unity...
> >> > It's more of a re-post than anything.  I would
> >> like to
> >> > post it as is (instead of writing my own)
> because
> >> it
> >> > reflects an anti-war section of the Boston
> >> community
> >> > that I haven't seen before.  If I write
> something,
> >> > it's just my opinion...  boring!
> >> >
> >> > peace,
> >> > sofia
> >> >
> >> > --- sharpie at riseup.net wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm under the impression that we don't feature
> >> >> "announcements"? which this
> >> >> appears to classify quite plainly as.... ?
> >> >>
> >> >> peace
> >> >> sharpie
> >> >> ps i'd do some interviews with folks
> organizing
> >> it
> >> >> that would make a great
> >> >> piece!
> >> >>
> >> >> > hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would like to center this:
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/39141/index.php
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And shamelessly begin to promote the march
> in
> >> DC
> >> >> on
> >> >> > September 24.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any objections?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > peace,
> >> >> > sofia
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
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