[Boston-editorial] flamewars

[TL]

Yes I would agree. The tough thing w/ zero-tolerance
is these issues are noty always black & white (no pun
intended) I'm certainly gonna be more cautious 
--- Matthew Williams <mw21 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I was probably overly heavy handed in hiding
> the posts I did, as 
> I would say Tim was too. It's certainly allowed them
> to make hay from 
> our mistakes. I guess I'd be OK with seeing how
> things go by avoiding 
> that sort of mistake again. On the other hand, my
> attitude towards hate 
> speech tends to be one of zero tolerance, extending
> to hiding anything 
> ambiguous. (We have actually agreed on this policy
> vis-a-vis conspiracy 
> theories involving Jews or Zionists, agreeing to
> treat them as 
> anti-Semitic even if it's not one hundred percent
> clear that they are.) 
> I suppose that zero tolerance attitude is what
> caused me to go 
> overboard in this case. -- Matt
> 
> On Mar 11, 2005, at 8:00 PM, Pete Stidman wrote:
> 
> > Actually I feel that both you and Tim are being
> drawn
> > into very dangerous territory.  I think that
> > especially on the black panther article you were
> > unnessecarily heavy handed matthew.  I agree with
> your
> > side of the argument of course, but by censoring
> you
> > gave sid credibility he wouldn't have had
> otherwise.
> >
> > I saw that post earlier and let it go since most
> would
> > ignore it.
> >
> > We need to take a stand some places, but we have
> to be
> > careful and keep the bar fairly low or else we
> will be
> > criticized by right wingers for being very heavily
> > biased.  I think we should avoid that possibility.
> >
> > The thing to do would have be refute their claims
> by
> > asking for solid proof.  And then deconstructing
> their
> > answers.  We must prevail with reason, not
> censorship.
> >  I t looks bad on us otherwise.  It looks like we
> are
> > trying to hide something.
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> >
> > --- Matthew Williams <mw21 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> Hello all --
> >>
> >> We seem to have a couple of trolls going by the
> >> names of Zoltar and Sid
> >> who are provoking flamewars, perhaps
> deliberately.
> >> Both Tim and I have
> >> taken the bait--see the features at
> >>
> >
>
http://boston.indymedia.org/feature/display/33529/index.php
> >> and
> >>
> >
>
http://boston.indymedia.org/feature/display/33596/index.php
> >>
> >> respectively. For the most part, what they're
> saying
> >> either doesn't
> >> violate policy or falls into a gray area. Given
> the
> >> trouble they've
> >> been causing though, I would like to propose that
> >> they be classified
> >> under the "disruptive individual" clause of our
> >> editorial policy and
> >> all posts by them be hidden, as we've done with
> >> other trouble-makers in
> >> the past. Do you all think this makes sense? Or
> am I
> >> reacting too
> >> quickly? Should we let them post a little longer
> and
> >> see if they keep
> >> on provoking flamewars or if these two sets of
> posts
> >> are just
> >> aberrations?
> >>
> >> -- Matt
> >>
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