[Boston-editorial] hide article?

[Pete Stidman]

just a note for sofia's benefit-

I debated this one too, and almost hid it, but ended
up on the side of Tim and Matt.  

Another angle on it is that we've posted about a
million pictures of cops beating protestors over the
years, and this picture seems to depict something that
also really happened.  Like if we were to cover this
rally and some fighting actually occured, we would
probably print it depending on the individual images,
graphic content, sensitive nature of the situation,
etc.  

images are pretty tough.  This was a real close one to
call I think.  

-Pete

--- Sofia JarrinT <sofiajt at yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi Matt,
> Tim & I talked about this and was agreed to leave
> it.
> I had no idea about the history behind this.  The
> picture  makes me  uncomfortable, but oh, well.
> 
> cheers,
> Sofia
> --- Matthew Williams <mw21 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> > I share your discomfort with the picture, but it's
> > not a direct threat 
> > of violence. And we have hidden some posts where
> > people threatened 
> > Nazis directly with violence (although we've had
> to
> > deal with far more 
> > of Nazis threatening anti-racists with violence).
> As
> > for removing the 
> > picture, we generally don't edit the content of
> > posts--we either hide 
> > them or we leave them. Regardless of whether we
> hid
> > the post or removed 
> > the picture, that is sure to anger the folks who
> > originally posted it, 
> > who will see it as a betrayal by their allies.
> They
> > would have a 
> > legitimate point. And we have enough problems to
> > deal with now with all 
> > these racists posting that I'm not inclined to get
> > into a conflict with 
> > our allies over this. I'm for leaving it up as is,
> > problematic as it 
> > may be. -- Matt
> > 
> > On May 4, 2005, at 2:55 PM, Sofia JarrinT wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, I'm not sure.  Gun-wielding images usually
> > > represent armed resistance against imperalism or
> > > oligarchy. This picture shows one guy kicking
> > another
> > > one in the face.  I wouldn't want any of the
> > "Nazi,
> > > neo-nazi, or fascist" present in the
> anti-rallies
> > > kicked in the face.  Most of them, I think, are
> > just
> > > ignorant idiots or misled lazy people who are
> > unable
> > > to look into the facts for themselves.
> > >
> > > Promoting kicking them in the face to me is
> really
> > > about promoting violence.  Maybe we can hide the
> > > poster and leave the event on the site?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > sofia
> > >
> > > --- TL <saoirse1220 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> ummm I understand where your coming from sofia
> > but I
> > >> do disaggree. I think absent an actual call for
> > >> violence against the Nazis this picture could
> > easily
> > >> be more of an expression of the sentiment that
> > "we
> > >> dont want you here". its tough when your
> dealing
> > >> with
> > >> images because its so subjective. I mean people
> > >> could
> > >> say the same sorta thing about gun-wielding
> > images
> > >> of
> > >> the Panthers, EZLN, and Leila Khalid.
> > >> -tl
> > >> --- Sofia JarrinT <sofiajt at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>> hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I think this poster promotes hate and violence
> > and
> > >>> should be hidden:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/35998/index.php
> > >>>
> > >>> We should keep the same standards for these
> kind
> > >> of
> > >>> postings, no matter is it's "against Nazis".
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you guys think?
> > >>> sofia
> > >>>
> > >>>
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