[IMC-Boston-Editorial] re: [IMC-Boston-Discuss] Draft Agenda addition (beating a dead horse)

[Pete Stidman]

I appreciate your including me in your agenda.  

But I think your response, svea, which accuses me
again of power mongering without bringing any sort of
evidence whatsoever, thus continuing the unfounded
attacks upon me, is hardly indicative of a new
attitude of inclusiveness.  

In addition, the title, beating a dead horse, is
hardly respectful to an issue that is important to me.

Also the focus of distributing the duties I once
performed over resolving the issues that might allow
me to stay clearly shows your agenda.  

There are plenty of good reasons why I have slacked,
like being called a slew of names by members here and
never having the group react to it.  

I have also made every effort to hand these duties off
to someone responsible enough to step up.

It is rediculous to call someone a power monger who
has totally given up any semblance of power, never had
any since this is a collective,  and who has been
systematically ostracized from the group.

If anything, others have formed a power block in order
to cleanse the group of those who disagree with them. 


I look forward to hearing what you propose to do to
restore an atmosphere of inclusiveness after this new
silliness.  I fear it will be more contain more laughs
than sense.  

-Pete




--- Svea Eppler <sveasca at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Disclaimer: This message in no way advocates cruelty
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> Hi folks. 
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> Firstly, I would like to thank Andrew for posting
> such an extensive agenda to the list. 
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> Secondly, I wholeheartedly approve the agenda (even
> if it's a bit hard to read) and would like to add
> some additional items that are in line with Pete's
> request to discuss "Committing to inclusiveness". 
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> As Pete has mentioned in recent posts, there are
> several responsibilities that he has performed for
> the successful running of and organizational
> structure to Boston IndyMedia. I would like to add
> to the agenda the proposal that several volunteers
> step up to relieve Pete of some of these
> responsibilities that he has admitted to not
> fulfilling to the best of his abilities lately. Not
> only will this help insure that the jobs are
> actually getting done, it will also help
> re-distribute more evenly some of the work that is
> the running of Boston IndyMedia. 
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> "I have also been extremely limited on answering
> emails and answering the phone" and "Then there's
> the bank account. and the mail, the listservs, and
> more that I have traditionally done." 
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-http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/boston-editorial/2005-October/1021-dm.html
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> "This is something [announcing meetings/planning
> agendas] I traditionally kept my eye on and since my
> big pullback it isn't happening." 
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-http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/boston-editorial/2005-October/1013-5h.html
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> I would also like to suggest adding to the end of
> the agenda a discussion on the idea of "inclusion"
> that Pete continues to raise on the lists. While I
> personally feel that Pete has contributed as much to
> the negative environment at Boston IndyMedia as the
> rest of us over the past year or more, I believe
> that the whole group have played roles in allowing
> the tensions and conflicts to happen and persist at
> BIMC. I am very interested in discusing in-person
> how Boston IndyMedia can create an environment that
> is inclusive and free from heirarchy, however, I
> have a very strong feeling that we will not reach
> all of the answers to our problems in one short 1.5
> hour meeting that also has agenda items that involve
> the "work" of the collective. Based on previous
> experience that we have had at meetings discussing
> variations of this exact topic, I am almost certain
> that we will be unable to fully discuss it, let
> alone make a concensus decision on how to
> immediately solve the internal problems
>  that we face. If we can, that will be great! In the
> meantime, I look forward to continuing this
> discussion after the 2 month online/meeting break
> that we've had and starting to re-examine how we can
> create a structure that allows for more
> inclusiveness and less power mongering.
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> So, because Andrew is SO through and I'm a huge fan
> on saving time and being effecient, I propose
> altering the proposed agenda to reflect the actual
> working needs of the group as well as our need to
> discuss the conflict/power structure/inclusive
> topic. Editing Andrew's agenda to include and
> restructure around these agenda items looks
> something like this:
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> revised Proposed Agenda
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> 1) Welcome/Facilitator role
> 2) Review Agenda
> 3) Reportbacks: Office operations, Website
> operations, Editorial update, Multimedia Project
> (Radio/Video), Video Project, Other groups or
> projects?
> 4) Identify Current Tasks, Redistribute IMC duties
> and Assume Responsibility
> 5) Upcoming Projects
> 6) Inclusiveness/Conflict/Power Structure Discussion
> 7) Set Next Meeting Date/Time/Facilitator
> 8) Conclusion/Round Robin 
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> What do people think?
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> Svea.
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