Sin asunto
Mie Mar 23 08:14:52 PDT 2011
account for all the collectives and groups? It's not clear for us.
And of course : who will handle the migration of the current server
monkeybrain to cernio?
Thanks for your Answers
Sakura and nomore from imc paris
> [espanol]
>
> Una nueva versi=F3n, con correcciones y algunas modificaciones propuestas
> por
> zapata (de indymedia netherlands, que nos ayuda con trabajos tecnicos en
> marieta). Nada de nuevo, solo mas educado y algunas frases mas bien
> escritas.
>
> [english]
>
> A new version, with corrections and some modifications proposed by zapata
> (from indymedia netherlands, which helps us with technical work in
> marieta).
> Nothing new, just more polite and with some phrases more well written.
>
> --
>
> [espanol]
>
> Hola, colectivo San Francisco Bay Area IMC.
>
> Somos un grupo de colectivos de la red Indymedia (m[1], n[2], o[3], p[4],
> ...), organizados en torno de la construcci=F3n de una soluci=F3n para la
> situaci=F3n actual de nuestros sitios y servidores, y desarollo de una
> infraestrutura tecnica estruturada y de responsabilidad colectiva.
>
> Estes colectivos poseen hoy 3 servidores alojados en la empresa
> Monkeybrains[5]. Hoy, todos los voluntarios y voluntarias que estan
> envolvidos
> con esta causa se encuentran afuera de Estados Unidos, y portanto no
> posuimos
> ningun contacto que pueda responsabilizarse por la manutenci=F3n y
> administraci=F3n presencial de que nuestros servidores necesitan.
>
> Despu=E9s de un contacto entre colectivos locales de argentina y Indybay,=
se
> propuse el cambio de nuestros servidores de Monkeybrains a la cooperativa
> Cernio[6], que se queda en el mismo edif=EDcio. La propuesta declarava que
> personas de Indybay estarian dispuestas a funcionar como contactos locales
> y
> tambi=E9n ayudar con trabajo f=EDsico. Agradecemos mucho la disponibilida=
d de
> Indybay de nos ayudar con esta cuesti=F3n.
>
> Atraves de esta carta, nos gustaria explorar esta posibilidad. Para esto,
> nos
> gustaria aclarar nuestras necesidades y expresar nuestro sentimiento de
> reciprocidad y disposici=F3n de construir y fortalecer una nueva relaci=
=F3n
> entre
> colectivos.
>
> Como estrategia de corto plazo, pensamos en hacer la transferencia de X
> servidores de Monkeybrains para Cernio, hasta la fecha Y. Para esto, le
> pedir=EDamos a ustedes que se responsabilizen por las necesidades
> administrativas que requieren aceso f=EDsico, que s=F3n:
>
> * El traslado de los servidores de Monkeybrains a Cernio:
> - Transporte fisico de las m=E1quinas.
> - Suporte presencial y virtual en la configuraci=F3n de la nueva red.
>
> * Visitas de manutenci=F3n ocasionales para resolver possibles problemas
> como:
> - Atualizaciones de versi=F3n del kernel o de el sistema operativo que
> puedan resultar en rein=EDcios inconsistentes.
> - Problemas de hardware (calentamiento, substituici=F3n de piezas mal=
as,
> etc).
>
> * Visitas de manutenci=F3n periodicas:
> - Acompa=F1amiento junto a cuestiones administrativas com Cernio (cam=
bio
> de
> direcci=F3n, de armario, substituiciones de piezas planificadas, et=
c).
> - Limpieza de los servidores.
>
> * Interface con la cooperativa Cernio (pago, contacto, etc).
>
> Estamos abiertos a combinar la administraci=F3n de nuestros servidores con
> la de
> proyectos similares, y tambi=E9n contribuir con estos. Si es possible para
> el
> grupo de ustedes nos acoger y responsabilizarse por las tareas anteriores,
> nosotros podemos desarollar un plan de migraci=F3n que contemple la agenda
> de
> ustedes y de los otros grupos envolvidos.
>
> Nos gustaria conocer los costos (mensales para 1U, limite de banda, valor
> del
> excedente, costo de energia excedente, etc), si existe un periodo minimo
> de
> hospedaje, la fecha de vencimiento de los pagos, si es possible pagar via
> paypal y cualquieres otras informaciones administrativas necesarias para
> nuestra organizaci=F3n. Tambi=E9n nos gustaria saber si hay hotras formas=
de
> contribuici=F3n con el colectivo Indybay o con la cooperativa Cenio, en un
> esfuerzo solidario de cambio y ayuda mutua. Por fin, tambi=E9n nos gustar=
ia
> saber quales son las inst=E2ncias de comunicaci=F3n que utilizaremos para
> organizarnos.
>
> Como este acuerdo trata de la responsabilizaci=F3n por la infraestrutura
> fisica
> de los sevidores, tambi=E9n nos gustaria dividir con ustedes nuestra
> estrategia
> de mas largo plazo, para que posamos planificar y saber como encaminar las
> dicusiones y proposiciones futuras. Sitios de Indymedia, o cualquieres
> otros
> colectivos que liden con tencologia y movimientos sociales hoy, tienen que
> lidiar con cuestiones de seguridad de la infomaci=F3n en terminos de
> protecci=F3n
> de la privacidad de los sujetos participantes. Para esto, tenemos el
> proyecto
> de, entre otras medidas, hacer la migraci=F3n de nuestra infraestrutura p=
ara
> ambiente encriptado. Para poder realizar esto, necesitar=EDamos de suporte
> de
> t=E9cnicos y/o t=E9cnicas confiables, que puedan reinstalar los sistemas,
> configurar particiones encriptadas y nos dar el suporte necesario para
> hacer
> esta transici=F3n. Este contacto tambi=E9n tiene la intenci=F3n de saber =
si es
> possible contar con la ayuda de el colectivo Indybay para estas tareas
> futuras.
>
> Hasta y gracias de nuevo,
>
> Colectivos m, n, o, p...
>
> --
>
> [english]
>
> Hello, San Francisco Bay Area IMC collective.
>
> We are a group of collectives from Indymedia network (m[1], n[2], o[3],
> p[4],
> ...), organized around the construction of a solution for the present
> situation of our sites and servers, and the development of a structured
> and
> collectively responsible technical infrastructure.
>
> These collectives currently have 3 servers hosted by the Monkeybrains[5]
> company. Today, all the volunteers involved with this cause are located
> outside the United States, so we do not have any contact that can be
> responsible for the presential maintenance and administration that the
> servers
> need.
>
> After contact between local argentinan collectives and Indybay, it was
> proposed to move our servers from Monkeybrains to the Cernio[6]
> cooperative,
> which resides in the same building. The proposal stated that people from
> Indybay would be prepared to function as local contacts and also help with
> physical labor. We thank you very much for the availability of Indybay on
> helping us with this matter.
>
> Through this letter, we would like to explore this possibility. Therefore,
> we
> would like to clarify our needs and express our feeling of reciprocity and
> disposition to build and strengthen a new relation between collectives.
>
> As a short term strategy, we thought about transfering X servers from
> Monkeybrains to Cernio until the date Y. In order to do this, we would
> request
> of you to take responsibility for the administrative necessities that
> require
> physical access, which are:
>
> * The actual transfer from Monkeybrains to Cernio:
> - Physical transfer of the machines.
> - Presential and virtual support on the configuration of the new
> network.
>
> * Ocasional maintenance visits to solve possible problems such as:
> - Kernel or system versions update that can result in inconsistent
> reboots.
> - Hardware problems (overheating, broken parts substitution, etc).
>
> * Periodic maintenance visits:
> - Monitoring of administrative questions related to Cernio (address
> or rack changes, planned parts substitution, etc).
> - Servers cleaning.
>
> * Interface with Cernio cooperative (payment, contact, etc).
>
> We are open to combining administration of our servers with those of
> similar
> projects and contributing to those. If it is possible for your group to
> receive us and be responsible for the above tasks, we can develop a
> migration
> plan that contemplates your agenda and also the agendas of other groups
> involved.
>
> If the answer is positive, we would like to know the costs (monthly costs
> for
> 1U, bandwith and energy limits and exceeding costs, etc), if there is a
> minimum period of hosting, the due date for payments, if it is possible to
> pay
> via paypal, and any other administrative information we would need for our
> organization. Also, we would like to know if there are other forms of
> contributing with Indybay collective or Cernio cooperative, in a solidary
> effort of mutual help and exchange. Lastly, we would also like to know
> what
> are the communication instances we will be using to organize.
>
> As this agreement is about responsabilization for physical server's
> infrastructure, we would also like to share with you our long term
> strategy,
> so we can plan an know how to organize future discussions and proposals.
> Today, Indymedia sites or any other collective that deals with tecnology
> and
> social movements have to deal with security information in temrs of
> protecting
> the privacy of paritipants subjects. Because of this, we have to project
> of,
> among other meaures, migrating our infrastructure to an encrypted
> environment.
> In order to do this, we would need the support of trustworthy technicians
> with
> physical access that could reinstall systems, configure encrypted
> partitions
> and give us the necessary support to arrange this transition. This contact
> also has the intention of knowing if it would be possible to count with
> the
> help of Indybay collective for these future tasks.
>
> So long and thanks again,
>
> Colectives m, n, o, p...
>
>
> --
>
> gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 7D717AAC
>
> ---- __o
> ---- _`\<,_
> ---- (*)/ (*)
> Em Tue, May 10, 2011 at 03:01:09PM -0300, drebs escreveu:
>> [espanol]
>>
>> Hola, en la reunion de domingo[1] yo me propuse a escribir una propuesta
>> de
>> carta para Indybay. Yo escribi una propuesta en el wiki[2], pero he
>> cerrado el
>> aceso publico porque pens=E9 que havia detalles estrategicos que son
>> mejores de
>> no dejar publicos. Si alguien quiere ver la pagina o editarla, por favor
>> me
>> pase el usuario en docs que yo pongo con aceso a la pagina. Si alguien
>> no
>> tiene usuario, la pagina para registro es esta[3]. Si alguien tiene
>> desacuerdos sobre el nivel de privacidad de esta carta y de la pagina
>> wiki,
>> por favor decir que podemos abrir la pagina.
>>
>> Por favor, hacer comentarios, correcciones y enmiendas a la carta.
>>
>> Est=E1 abajo la propuesta, y hay algunas cuestiones que creo que tienen
>> que ser
>> discutidas y consensuadas antes de enviar la carta para los colectivos
>> locales discutiren y firmaren. Las cuestiones son:
>>
>> 1. Cuales son los colectivos que estan enviando la carta? Yo puse
>> argentina,
>> brasil, paris y barcelona pu=E9s s=F3n los que m=E1s est=E1n particip=
ando de
>> las
>> discusiones, pero creo que hay m=E1s colectivos envolvidos y en esta
>> lista, y
>> seria bueno que estos tambi=E9n estean junto.
>>
>> 2. Como pretendemos organizar el pago? En la ultima vez, el pago para
>> Monkeybrains fue echo por mi via paypal com dinero de Indymedia
>> Brasil y
>> Linefeed, (si no estoy equivocado). Los otros colectivos ya tuvieran
>> discusion sobre esto? Ya tienen alguna posicion cuanto a
>> contribuicion en
>> dinero?
>>
>> 3. Cuantos servidores vamos a cambiar para Cernio (numero X en la
>> carta)?
>> Cuanto tiempo necesitamos para organizar esto (fecha Y en la carta)?
>> Que se
>> hace con el (los) servidor(es) que no cambian?
>>
>> 4. Agenda y plazos para reorganizaci=EDn de los servicios en los
>> servidores y
>> mudanza de colocation. Fechas, divisi=F3n de tareas y
>> responsabilizaci=F3n.
>>
>> 5. Estamos preparados para confiar nuestra estrutura, inclusive
>> contrase=F1s de
>> aceso a las maquinas, a Indybay? (esto es una cuestion para
>> discusi=F3n, no
>> una sinalizacion de desacuerdo de mi parte).
>>
>> 6. Dos cuestiones no estavan claras en la ultima reunion y esta
>> informacion
>> deve estar en la propuesta para los colectivos locales: (1) El precio
>> es de
>> 80 dolares por servidor por mes o por un a=F1o completo? (2) Hay un
>> periodo
>> minimo de 1 a=F1o para nos quedarnos en Cernio? Esta es una restricci=
=F3n
>> de
>> Cernio?
>>
>> A mi me gustaria tener estas respuestas (m=E1s alla de item 5 que creo q=
ue
>> s=F3n
>> los colectivos locales que devem contestar) para poder enviar la
>> propuesta
>> completa para la red Brasil. Creo que el camino seria (1) terminar la
>> carta,
>> (2) enviar para los colectivos locales para que se apruebe la propuesta
>> y
>> posan firmar la carta todos los colectivos envolvidos, y (3) enviar la
>> carta
>> para Indybay.
>>
>> Las personas de argentina que hicieran la propuesta no estavan en el
>> chat
>> domingo, y tambi=E9n a=FAn no tenemos un resumen de la reunion, aunque h=
ay
>> el log
>> de el chat para los que se interesan. Entonces creo que es importante
>> saber si
>> los colectivos de argentina que hicieran la propuesta est=E1n de acuerdo
>> con
>> este camino. Si pensan que algo tiene que ser hecho diferente, por
>> favor,
>> decir para que posamos lidiar con esto.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://list.actiu.info/mailman/private/intertechs-servers/2011-May/00007=
0.html
>> [2]
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/Sysadmin/IntertechsServersCartaPresentacion
>> [3] https://docs.indymedia.org/System/UserRegistration
>>
>> --
>>
>> [english]
>>
>> Hi, in the sunday meeting[1] i proposed to write a proposal of letter to
>> Indybay. I wrote a proposal in the wiki[2], but i closed the page for
>> public
>> access because I thought there were strategic details that are better
>> not
>> leave public. If someone wants to see the page or edit it, please send
>> me the
>> docs' user and i allow the access to the page. If someone does not have
>> a
>> user, the page for registration is this[3]. Is someone disagrees on the
>> level
>> of privateness of this letter and wiki page, please say so and we can
>> open it
>> to the public.
>>
>> Please, make comments, correcions and additions to the letter.
>>
>> Below is the proposal, and there are some questions i think have to be
>> discussed and consensuated before sending the letter for local
>> collectives to
>> discuss and sign. The questions are:
>>
>> 1. Which are the collectives that will send the letter? I wrote
>> argentina,
>> brasil, paris and barcelone, just because these are the ones that are
>> participating the most of the discussions, but i believe that there
>> are
>> more collectives involved and in this list, and it would be nice if
>> they
>> are together with us in this.
>>
>> 2. How will we organize payment? Last time, the payment to Monkeybrains
>> was
>> made by my through drupal with money from Indymedia Brasil and
>> Linefeed (if
>> i am not wrong). Did the other collectives discuss about this? Do
>> they have
>> a position about money contribution?
>>
>> 3. How many servers are we changing to Cernio (number X in the letter)?
>> How
>> long do we need to organize this (date Y in the letter)? What will be
>> done
>> with the servers that are not changed?
>>
>> 4. Agenda and due dates for the reorganization of services in the
>> servers and
>> colocation change. Dates, task division and responsabilization.
>>
>> 5. Are we prepared to trust our infra, including passwords for access to
>> the
>> machines, to Indybay? (this is a question for discussion, not a
>> signaling
>> of disagreement from my part).
>>
>> 6. Two questions were not clear from last meeting and this info would
>> have to
>> be included in the proposal to local collectives: (1) The price is 80
>> dollars per server per month or for a whole year? (2) Is there a
>> minimum
>> period of one year for we to stay in Cernio? Is this a Cernio's
>> restriction?
>>
>> I would like to have the answers to these questions (other than item 5,
>> which
>> I believe will be answered by local collectives) before sending the
>> proposal
>> to the Brasil Network. I think the path would be to (1) finish the
>> letter, (2)
>> send it to local collectives so the proposal will be approved and all
>> involved
>> collectives can sign the letter, and (3) send the letter to Indybay.
>>
>> The people from argentina that made the proposal were not in the chat
>> sunday,
>> and we still don't have meeting minutes, although there is the chat log
>> to
>> read for those who are interested. So, i believe it is important to know
>> if
>> the collectives from argentina that made the proposal agree with this
>> path. If
>> some thinks that something should be done differently, please say so,
>> and we
>> deal with this.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://list.actiu.info/mailman/private/intertechs-servers/2011-May/00007=
0.html
>> [2]
>> https://docs.indymedia.org/Sysadmin/IntertechsServersCartaPresentacion
>> [3] https://docs.indymedia.org/System/UserRegistration
>>
>> --
>>
>> [espanol]
>>
>> Propuesta de carta para Indybay
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> Hola, colectivo San Francisco Bay Area IMC.
>>
>> Somos un grupo de colectivos de la red Indymedia (argentina[1],
>> barcelona[2],
>> brasil[3], paris[4], ...), organizados en torno de la construcci=F3n de
>> una
>> soluci=F3n para la situaci=F3n actual de nuestros sitios y servidores, y
>> desarollo
>> de una infraestrutura tecnica estruturada y de responsabilidad
>> colectiva.
>>
>> Este grupo tiene hoy 3 servidores alojados en la empresa
>> Monkeybrains[5]. Hoy,
>> todos los voluntarios y voluntarias que estan envolvidos con esta causa
>> se
>> encuentran afuera de Estados Unidos, y portanto no posuimos ningun
>> contacto
>> que pueda responsabilizarse por la manutenci=F3n y administraci=F3n
>> presencial de
>> que nuestros servidores necesitan.
>>
>> Duespu=E9s de contacto de colectivos locales de argentina con Indybay, se
>> propuse para este grupo el cambio fisico de nuestros servidores para la
>> infraestrutura de la cooperativa Cernio[6], que se queda en el mismo
>> edificio
>> que Monkeybrains, sob responsabilidad fisica de los compa=F1eros y
>> compa=F1eras de
>> Indybay. Agradecemos mucho la disponibilidad de Indybay de nos ayudar en
>> esta
>> questi=F3n.
>>
>> Estamos, atraves de esta carta, conducindo la posibilidad de hospedaje
>> de
>> nuestros servidores en la cooperativa Cernio, con suporte fisico y
>> solidariedad de compa=F1eros y compa=F1eras de Indybay. Para esto, nos
>> gustaria
>> exponer nuestras necesidades, y expresar nuestra voluntad y disposici=F3n
>> para
>> contribuir, construir y fortalecer una nueva relaci=F3n entre colectivos.
>>
>> Como estrategia de corto plazo, pensamos en hacer la transferencia de X
>> servidores de Monkeybrains para Cernio, hasta la fecha Y. Para esto,
>> necesitamos de la responsabilizaci=F3n de ustedes por las necesidades y
>> administraci=F3n f=EDsica de los servidores, que hoy s=F3n:
>>
>> * El traslado de los servidores de Monkeybrains a Cernio:
>> - Transporte fisico de las m=E1quinas.
>> - Suporte presencial y virtual en la configuraci=F3n de la nueva red.
>>
>> * Visitas de manutenci=F3n ocasionales para resolver possibles problem=
as
>> como:
>> - Atualizaciones de versi=F3n del kernel o de el sistema operativo q=
ue
>> puedan resultar en rein=EDcios inconsistentes.
>> - Problemas de hardware (calentamiento, substituici=F3n de piezas
>> malas,
>> etc).
>>
>> * Visitas de manutenci=F3n periodicas:
>> - Acompa=F1amiento junto a cuestiones administrativas com Cernio
>> (cambio de
>> direcci=F3n, de armario, substituiciones de piezas planificadas,
>> etc).
>> - Limpieza de los servidores.
>>
>> * Interface con la cooperativa Cernio (pago, contacto, etc)
>>
>> Nos gustaria saber si ustedes hacen esto por algun grupo m=E1s all=E1 de
>> Indybay
>> (como forma de solidariedad o de servicio) y si estan dispuestos a nos
>> ayudar
>> com estas tareas. Si es possible para el grupo de ustedes nos acoger y
>> responsabilizarse por estas tareas, nosotros podemos desarollar un plan
>> de
>> migraci=F3n que contemple la agenda de ustedes y de los otros grupos
>> envolvidos.
>>
>> Si la respuesta es positiva, nos gustaria conocer los costos (mensales
>> para
>> 1U, limite de banda, valor del excedente, costo de energia excedente,
>> etc), si
>> existe un periodo minimo de hospedaje, la fecha de vencimiento de los
>> pagos,
>> si es possible pagar via paypal y cualquieres otras informaciones
>> administrativas necesarias para nuestra organizaci=F3n. Tambi=E9n nos
>> gustaria
>> saber si hay hotras formas de contribuici=F3n con el colectivo Indybay o
>> con la
>> cooperativa Cenio, en un esfuerzo solidario de cambio y ayuda mutua. Por
>> fin,
>> tambi=E9n nos gustaria saber quales son las inst=E2ncias de comunicaci=
=F3n que
>> utilizaremos para organizarnos.
>>
>> Como este acuerdo trata de la responsabilizaci=F3n por la infraestrutura
>> fisica
>> de los sevidores, tambi=E9n nos gustaria dividir con ustedes nuestra
>> estrategia
>> de mas largo plazo, para que posamos planificar y saber como encaminar
>> las
>> dicusiones y proposiciones futuras. Sitios de Indymedia, o cualquieres
>> otros
>> colectivos que liden con tencologia y movimientos sociales hoy, tienen
>> que
>> lidiar con cuestiones de seguridad de la infomaci=F3n en terminos de
>> protecci=F3n
>> de la privacidad de los sujetos participantes. Para esto, tenemos el
>> proyecto
>> de, entre otras medidas, hacer la migraci=F3n de nuestra infraestrutura
>> para
>> ambiente encriptado. Para poder realizar esto, necesitamos otra vez de
>> mucho
>> suporte presencial de tecnicos confiables, que puedan reinstalar los
>> sistemas,
>> configurar particiones encriptadas y nos dar todo el suporte necesario
>> presencial para hacer esta transici=F3n. Este contacto tambi=E9n tiene la
>> intenci=F3n de saber si es possible contar con la ayuda de el colectivo
>> Indybay
>> para estas tareas futuras.
>>
>> Hasta y gracias de nuevo,
>>
>> Colectivos m, n, o, p...
>>
>> --
>>
>> [english]
>>
>> Proposal for a letter to Indybay
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> Hello, San Francisco Bay Area IMC collective.
>>
>> We are a group of collectives from Indymedia network (argentina[1],
>> barcelona[2], brasil[3], paris[4], ...), organized around the
>> construction of
>> a solution for the present situation of our sites and servers, and the
>> development of a structured and collectively responsible technical
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> This groups posesses today 3 servers hosted on the Monkeybrains[5]
>> company.
>> Today, all the volunteers involved with this cause are located outside
>> the
>> United States, so we do not have any contact that can be responsible for
>> the
>> presential maintenance and administration that the servers need.
>>
>> After the contact of local argentina collectives with Indybay, it was
>> proposed
>> to this group the physical change of servers to the Cernio[6]
>> cooperative
>> infrastructure, which is located in the same building as Monkeybrains,
>> under
>> physical responsibility of comrades from Indybay. We thank you very much
>> for
>> the disponibility of Indybay on helping us with this question.
>>
>> We are, through this letter, conducting the possibility of hosting our
>> servers
>> in Cernio cooperative, with physical support and solidarity by comrades
>> from
>> Indybay. For this, we would like to expose our needs, and express our
>> will and
>> disposition to contribute, build an strengthen a new relation between
>> collectives.
>>
>> As a short term strategy, we thought about transfering X servers from
>> Monkeybrains to Cernio until the date Y. In order to do this, we would
>> need
>> the responsabilization from you for the physical administration
>> necessities
>> our servers have, which are today:
>>
>> * The actual transfer from Monkeybrains to Cernio:
>> - Physical transfer of the machines.
>> - Presential and virtual support on the configuration of the new
>> network.
>>
>> * Ocasional maintenance visits to solve possible problems such as:
>> - Kernel or system versions update that can result in inconsistent
>> reboots.
>> - Hardware problems (overheating, broken parts substitution, etc).
>>
>> * Periodic maintenance visits:
>> - Monitoring of administrative questions related to Cernio (address
>> or
>> rack changes, planned parts substitution, etc).
>> - Servers cleaning.
>>
>> * Interface with Cernio cooperative (payment, contact, etc).
>>
>> We would like to know if you already do this for some group other than
>> Indybay
>> itself (as a form os folidarity or service) and if you are willing to
>> help us
>> with these tasks. If it is possible for your group to receive us and be
>> responsible for these tasks, we can develop a migration plan that
>> contemplates
>> your agenda and also the agendas of other groups involved.
>>
>> If the answer is positive, we would like to know the costs (monthly
>> costs for
>> 1U, bandwith and energy limits and exceeding costs, etc), if there is a
>> minimum period of hosting, the due date for payments, if it is possible
>> to pay
>> via paypal, and any other administrative information we would need for
>> our
>> organization. Also, we would like to know if there are other forms of
>> contributing with Indybay collective or Cernio cooperative, in a
>> solidary
>> effort of mutual help and exchange. Lastly, we would also like to know
>> what
>> are the communication instances we will be using to organize.
>>
>> As this agreement is about responsabilization for physical server's
>> infrastructure, we would also like to share with you our long term
>> strategy,
>> so we can plan an know how to organize future discussions and proposals.
>> Today, Indymedia sites or any other collective that deals with tecnology
>> and
>> social movements have to deal with security information in temrs of
>> protecting
>> the privacy of paritipants subjects. Because of this, we have to project
>> of,
>> among other meaures, migrating our infrastructure to an encrypted
>> environment.
>> In order to do this, we would need a lot of presential support from
>> trustable
>> technicians, that could reinstall the systems, configure encrypted
>> partitions
>> and give us all necessary presential support to make this transition.
>> This
>> contact also has the intention of knowing if it would be possible to
>> count
>> with the help of Indybay collective for these future tasks.
>>
>> So long and thanks again,
>>
>> Colectives m, n, o, p...
>>
>> --
>>
>> gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 7D717AAC
>>
>> ---- __o
>> ---- _`\<,_
>> ---- (*)/ (*)
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