[Dns] Re: Global escalation of Darwin dispute

Tue Oct 4 03:34:59 PDT 2005

Dear dns working group and new-imc list,

This email is to alert you to the fact that Mick Lambe is threatening to 
escalate this debate to the global level.

It is my opinion that these accusations are untrue.  The conflict began 
over a romantic relationship break-up within the Darwin 
Collective.  It resulted in two factions being formed.  Unable to make a 
judgement about who was right or wrong in the dispute, Perth indymedia 
decided to stop hosting both factions, essentially shutting down Darwin 
indymedia.

Rather than accept that this is a personal issue rather than an indymedia 
issue, Mick continues to assert that anyone who doesn't believe his side 
of the story is racist and sexist.

Below is his attempt to bully us into supporting a redirecting of the dns.

This email is just a heads up that the issue will soon be brought to the 
global level.

cheers,
stacy (speaking as an individual)
sydney indymedia volunteer

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, mick lambe PARIAH wrote:

> Hi
>
> You people allowing this? Have you NO ethics?
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=59795&group=webcast
>
> Ironically Stac y Sch eff "obfuscated" her name and
> censored this article citing a "personal attack" -
> very droll.
>
> http://syd
ney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=59795&group=webcast
>
> Sta cy Sc heff also cut all the links. Clever geek stuff
> :-) Pity sydney can't fix the bugs on their site.
>
> Perth have censored the article exposing their
> injustice on perth.indymedia.
>
> http://perth.indymedia.
org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=12980
>
> And deleted a follow-up article that questioned their
> reasons - "lies and misinformation".
>
> Well what were they? - So much for free speech. It's
> OK to pull down our site for 6 months for NO reason
> and call us liars. It's OK to host savage
> personal/racist attacks against us. It's OK to censor
> us on oceania and indymedia sites. But how dare we
> critique these actions.
>
> So what rights do we have?
>
> This was a set-up to remove our collective from the
> word go.
>
> Global (everywhere) is the next step then?
>
> -------
>
>
> St acy Sch eff's (sydney.imc) latest proposal to deny
> darwin imc justice
>
> by concerned for justice
>
>
>
> Latest 'PROPOSAL': Removing Mick Lambe (nasty title -
> used repeatedly despite objections)
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pip
ermail/imc-oceania/2005-October/002975.html
>
> Just another personal attack from Stacy Scheff, a
> person who refuses to remove personal/racist attacks
> against the DIMC.
>
> - (But censors criticism of them and "obfuscates"
> 'her' name)
>
> http://melbourne.indy
media.org/news/2005/09/96325.php
>
> Perth had no problem deleting the article 'Oz/perth
> indymedia collectives continue injustice/censorship
> against darwin imc'. Open publishing doesn't include
> critiques of perth.imc.
>
> http://perth.indymedia.org/in
dex.php?action=newswire&parentview=12987#12989
>
> This latest 'proposal' is just setting DIMC up for
> failure (no chance with the evident bias) and refusing
> to concede that a vindicated collective has no need to
> apply for anything.
>
> Oceania and perth.imc had no problems giving
> darwin.indymedia to liars who threatened the DIMC at
> their home.
>
> http://www.country-li
beral-party.com/pages/NAP_racist_disrespect.htm
>
> Stacy - "It has now been over a week since I proposed
> the suspension of Mick Lambe from this list.
>
> "There have been no blocks, and only one objection."
>
> - Of course, because most people fear similar
> retaliation from your autocratic 'clique' - and DIMC
> were censored from discussion on the list.
>
> "Mick has continued to direct abuse to the list, to
> indymedia sites, and off-list, despite possible
> resolutions being offered."
>
> - What abuse?
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/piper
mail/imc-oceania/2005-September/thread.html
>
> Your abuse of power and indymedia protocol (racism) is
> disgusting Stacy. We are the victims of your bias and
> ineptitude - we'll decide appropriate resolution. Not
> you.
>
> "It has been pointed out that the Oceania regional
> grouping has no power to grant an indymedia.org domain
> name, other than expressing individual support for
> such a request."
>
> - It's been pointed out you can do more than that. So
> that's just another lie by ommission Stacy...
>
> "Despite overwhelming evidence that the DIMC acted in
> accordance with indymedia protocols in expelling
> people who lied to oceania - oceania/perth imc still
> refuse to contact indymedia dns and explain that...
>
> 1. They had no right to dictate to an autonomous imc,
> especially on the basis of lies/bias.
>
> 2. The darwin imc have been vindicated and their url
> http://darwin.indymedia.org/ should be pointed to
> their current url @ http://dimc.axxs.org/
>
> Doesn't sound too hard does it?" Also --
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pip
ermail/imc-oceania/2005-October/002973.html
>
>
> There is simply nothing anyone on this list can do
> about any of this... Allan_x
>
> Nigel - Nonsense. For a start, they could stop
> attacking the legitimate collective. They could also
> take some responsibility for decisions they have made
> which were based on lies which have now been exposed,
> instead of pretending that those lies were never told
> and that it's "all too complicated" to resolve.
>
> Allan_x - Unless I'm mistaken, Mick and Nigel can
> propose whatever they like - but its entirely
> irrelevant to the Oceania Indymedia organising
> collective.
>
> Its unfortunate that the situation has unnecessarily
> escalated, but I simply do not understand exactly what
> these guys want us to do?
>
> Nigel - The Perth collective could easily write an
> email to the DNS group explaining that their original
> decision was made due to bad info, that the facts are
> clearer now and please point darwin.indymedia.org at
> dimc.axxs.org
>
> See also -
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pi
permail/imc-oceania/2005-October/002972.html
>
> Mick - "Why don't you simply propose DIMC be
> reinstated at our normal url and we can all put this
> behind us?"
>
> kimk - i support this solution, if that's what y'all @
> oceania also want. if this will solve endless emails.
>
> So most posts in the 'discussion' argue that DIMC
> should be reinstated. Stacy just ignores anything that
> doesn't support her mission to destroy
> darwin.indymedia.
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pi
permail/imc-oceania/2005-October/thread.html
>
> ____________________________
>
>
> - Stacy contributed to this problem by backing perth's
> interference in an autonomous collective and allowing
> threads on sydney attacking the DIMC)
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au
> /pipermail/imc-oceania/2005-June/002822.html
>
> See article: 'Stacy Sch eff (sydney imc) supports
> racist and sexist attacks against darwin IMC' -
> http://melbourne.indymedia
> .org/news/2005/09/96325.php (censored)
>
> "THEREFORE, I request that the proposal be enacted as
> soon as possible, and, I recommend that Mick apply for
> a domain name via the new-imc: http://docs.indymed
> ia.org/view/Global/NewIMCFormEn"
>
> - NO - you undo your injustice NOW. See Nigel's
> proposals ignored by Stacy and Co. And stop ignoring
> DIMC's predominantly Aboriginal collective.
>
> Note the word "immediate" -
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pip
ermail/imc-oceania/2005-September/002922.html
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/piperma
il/imc-oceania/2005-June/002803.html
>
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pip
ermail/imc-oceania/2005-May/002751.html
>
> --------------------------
>
>
> Oceania is obviously run by a biased clique
> uninterested in justice, who continue to insult
> Aboriginal people. The patronising comments about
> David, Mindy and Freddy were/are disgusting. Hence the
> angry responses. DIMC were also accused of lying by
> perth and oceania -- no apology or "immediate"
> resolution -- just more denial and bias from Sta cy
> Sch eff and Co.
>
> - "Why is this racism and sexism tolerated on
> sydney.indymedia?
>
> - Mick has requested twice that images of a battered
> Aboriginal woman entitled
> "did_mick_and_dave_sit_around_and_let_this_happen" be
> deleted (not hidden) on Sydney IMC.
>
> Once again - no problems with perth deleting an
> article exposing their injustice and these racist
> attacks hosted sydney.imc.
>
> - David Timber is the community leader at the
> Aboriginal One Mile Dam community
> http://onemiledam.org/ and mick lambe is coordinator
> of PARIAH - People Against Racism In Aboriginal
> Homelands - http://country-liberal-party.com
>
> - These images remain. As does a long thread of
> personal, racist and sexist attacks against the
> darwin.indymedia collective. None of which are
> substantiated in the least.
>
> http://images.indymedia.org/imc/syd
> ney/did_mick_and_dave_sit_around_and_let_this_happentdwu3j.jpg
>
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.org/di
> splay.php3?article_id=59500&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.org
> /display.php3?article_id=59350&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.or
> g/display.php3?article_id=57574&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.o
> rg/display.php3?article_id=57136&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedi
> a.org/display.php3?article_id=57124&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.org/dis
> play.php3?article_id=56943&group=webcast
>
> http://sydney.indymedia.org/d
> isplay.php3?article_id=55852&group=webcast
>
> __________________
>
>
> Stacy - "Any imc member wishing to express an opinion
> about such an application should send an email to
> new-imc (at) indymedia.org."
>
> - yeah right (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) just more
> opportunity for a biased 'clique' to slow down/prevent
> resolution - anything but "immediate" justice.
>
> - Any chance of an apology to our collective? They
> didn't lie - did they?
>
> stacy
> sydney indy volunteer
>
> See also - NAP/TUF member's opinion -
> http://lists.cat.org.au/pipermai
> l/imc-oceania/2005-September/002960.html
>
> End this perversion of indymedia protocols. See -
> Autonomy and solidarity.
>
> End the domination of Oz indymedia by people who host
> ugly personal and racist attacks against their critics
> and who support liars. End the censorship.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> http://melbourne.indyme
> dia.org/news/2005/10/96522.php
> -------------------------------------------
>
> http://dimc.axxs.org/
>
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>
>
> mick lambe - coordinator: PARIAH - BETTER A PARIAH - THAN A LIAR
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