[Imc-africa] Chaos in Uganda
imc at alluta.org
imc at alluta.org
Sat Feb 25 10:30:10 PST 2006
I'm sorry I can't participate in any discussions at the moment as we're trying
to cover news on the new developments in Uganda.
Can someone contact the imc-tech-team to link up East-Africa imc
see latest stories at
Je suis désolé que je ne puisse participer à aucunes discussions en ce moment
comme nous essayons de couvrir des nouvelles sur les nouveaux développement en
Peut quelqu'un contacter l'imc-tech-team pour associer Afrique de l'est imc
voir les dernières histoires à
Quoting Glenda Loebell <glloebell at yahoo.com>:
> Hello All who are in discussion with the difficulties
> For a couple of years we met in Senegal to explore the
> sipport of the groups interested in indymedia.
> Our experience when exploring/teasing out the various
> burn issues were so similar.
> The African experience was influenced by lack of
> resources, lack of learned
> skills/opportunities/support for further learning and
> exchange with people ready and willing to share.
> We tried to establish ourselves with concrete
> structures-university but that failed as we were seen
> as an European group and so therefor were the rich
> north and could be milked- depriving our local African
> comrades the opportunities of exchange and learning.
> Us from them and them from us.
> We have and had groups who would like to continue but
> the resourse in many African countries are limited.
> Many of our brothers and sisters have for 2 to 3
> generations been unemployed -this being just one
> example between the rich north when unemployed and
> activist in many cases out of choice and with full
> knowlege the there is a social structure as backup.
> Many of our comrades in Africa struggle to survive.
> We have political oppression in Africa, deep seated
> poverty and the extra challenge of aids devastating
> our continent.
> We just cannot compare ourselves-north/south.
> Development proceeses are just what they are
> proceeses-each one determining Her/his pace given
> experience, background and resourses.
> Our brothers and sisters from Africa here in Europe
> live another life than that in Africa however also
> different from our brothers and sisters from Europe.
> Activist in many African countries face reprecasions
> but we here in the north at least have some cover of
> human rights.
> We must stay sensative, aware try to be constructive
> and explore ways to support.
> --- sphinx <sphinx at indymedia.org> wrote:
>> Joram! It s not only an African problem. Some very
>> serious IMCs in Europe and
>> North America have also closed their doors. The are
>> alot of reasons ranging
>> from the lack of individuals who can keep the steam
>> in the collective, to
>> internal conflict based on political opinion to lack
>> of cheap electronic
>> gadgets which have been very instrumental in the
>> success of the global north
>> imcs; that have succeeded to establish themselves
>> like a permanent
>> structure in
>> their media landscape....
>> Joram! ce n'est pas non seulement un problème
>> africain. Certain très sérieux
>> IMCs en Europe et en Amérique de Nord ont également
>> fermé leurs portes. Il y
>> en a beaucoup de raisons; s'étendant du manque
>> d'individus qui peuvent
>> maintenir la vapeur dans le collectif, au conflit
>> interne basé sur l'opinion
>> politique, au manque d'instruments électroniques
>> moin cher qui ont été très
>> instrumentaux dans le succès des imcs du global nord
>> qui ont réussi pour
>> s'établir comme une structure permanente dans leur
>> paysage de médias....
>> Quoting imc at alluta.org:
>> > I think there's a problem here that folks are
>> afraid to address.
>> > Why do imcs in Africa fail?
>> > Je crois qu'il y a un problème ici que les gens
>> ont peur d'adresser.
>> > Pourquoi font imcs en Afrique échouent ?
>> Imc-africa mailing list
>> Imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
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