[Imc-africa] Re:Chaos in Uganda(Starting application process- LE PROCESSUS D'ADHÉSION POUR UN NOUVEAU CMI

[Jay]

Hi Joram, Sphinx, Andre, imc-africa,

I've been on the new-imc list for a while and I'll be happy to answer any 
questions anyone may have.  I forwarded the original east-africa form to 
this list because the new-imc group is trying to decentralize the new-imc 
process. Meaning, if there's an IMC forming in Africa we'd rather have 
people from Africa working on it together than some random person in Europe 
or North America being the only contact.  So, all this talk about the East 
Africa IMC on this list, as well as what it takes to make an IMC work, is 
really exciting!

There seem to be two different questions here.  The easy one to handle is 
how to go through the general new-imc process.  The information is here: 
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewImcHowTo.  Having been on the 
new-imc working group for a while, I'm sure one question from the new-imc 
working group will be whether the forming IMC really does represent all of 
East Africa, meaning there are people working on the IMC from all over East 
Africa, or if the group is just composed of people based in one country or 
city.  The new-imc working group really tries to emphasize face-to-face 
organizing and would generally rather see a city or country-based IMC than 
a regional one where people don't neet.  (A city or country-based IMC can 
have a lot of regional information, so, for example, IMC-Uganda could have 
a big East Africa news section.)

The more complicated question is how to get indymedia.org to link 
immediately to the current IMC-East Africa project.  There is no defined 
process for that.  Sometimes people e-mail the imc-communication to figure 
out if they can be listed in an emergency way, or even go to the new-imc 
working group and ask them to make a recommendation for that to happen.  It 
can be a bit complicated.  People are really reluctant to put an IMC that 
hasn't gone through the new-imc process onto the actual IMC cities list.

One much easier route to get people to visit the East Africa site would be 
to e-mail the www-features at indymedia.org group and put up a feature on the 
www.indymedia.org page.  There's no complicated process for that and it 
could bring at lot of attention to the site.

Jay
P.S. Sorry for no french!  My written french is awful.


At 2/25/2006, sphinx wrote:
>Hi Andre'! Hi all, I think the situation in Uganda is an emergency.
>The list to deal with that is imc-process; though imc-communication
>seems to be
>very active at the moment it will not be a bad idea to copy communication.
>
>Normally it could be a lot easier to get IMC-East Africa linked and listed on
>www.indymedia.org if IMC-East Africa had started the official process of
>becoming a member of the network. As far as I can remember imc-East
>Africa only
>sent an email to New-IMC, which mail Jay forwarded to this list imc-Africa. If
>IMC-East Africa do start their application process now, that will give some
>leverage in getting imc-process and eventually imc-tech to list
>imc-East Africa
>on the .org, at least temporally.
>Joram, may be you folks in Uganda should make it easy by starting the process
>of becoming an official IMC.
>
>PROCESS OF BECOMING AN OFFICIAL IMC
>
>The process of becoming an official IMC starts with the filling of the New-IMC
>application form available here:
>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCForm
>
>After this is down, that particular IMC is considered officially "a forming
>IMC".
>Someone from the New-IMC will take contact with the new-imc group in question.
>Normally referring the new group to some basic IMC documents to acquaint them
>with the IMC-Network and helping them fulfill any small adaptations that they
>may need to make. The documents are all available on the link below and good
>for new imcs to acquaint themselves with as a group:
>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCFormEn
>
>Andre; as you know if you just forward that mail to those lists, it will get
>lost and nothing will happen with it.  What you need to do is write a proposal
>and put a 14days dateline for objections on the proposal. If there be any
>objection then the concerns will be addressed. That is, you’ll title your
>mail: Proposal for Temporary issuing of a domain name to IMC-EAST Africa and
>linking them to the main indy start page. If Joram and the others from
>IMC-East
>Africa can fill the application form now, then you can state in your proposal;
>that though they are not a full functioning IMC they are in the New-IMC
>process
>and will continue with the new-imc process but now must focus on
>developments in
>Uganda (this of course will need be confirmed by Joram and others). Then
>you’ll state in your proposal that giving the emergency of the situation in
>Uganda, if there is no objection after 14days (try to write the exact date),
>that the proposal will be considered as passed. After 14days if there are no
>objections, you’ll inform process that the proposal has passed and you will
>forward both the proposal and information emails to imc-tech. The folks
>at tech
>work a lot faster and I‘m sure within at most 24hours of you forwarding to
>them the mails imc-East Africa will be both listed on indymedia.org and given
>it’s domain.
>
>
>Francais
>
>Bonjour André '! Bonjour tous, je pense que la situation en Uganda est une
>urgence. La liste à le traiter ce cmi-process; bien que imc-communication
>semble être très activité à l'heure actuelle, ce ne sera pas une mauvaise
>idée de copier cmi-communication list.
>
>Normalement il pourrait être beaucoup plus facile d'obtenir le CMI-Est 
>Afrique
>lié et énuméré sur www.indymedia.org
>si l'CMI-Est Afrique avait commencé le processus officiel de devenir un 
>membre
>du réseau indymedia. Je me rappeler que le CMI-Est Afrique a seulement 
>envoyée
>un email à la liste de Nouveaux-CMI (new-imc) et Jay a expédié cette 
>email a
>cette liste cmi-Afrique list. Si le CMI-Est Afrique commence l’application
>maintenant, cela en donnera accroissent pour obtenir la permission de
>cmi-process et par la suite imc-technologie de énumérer l'imc-Est 
>Afrique sur
>le .org, au moins temporellement.
>Joram, peut être que vous devraient le rendre facile en commençant le
>processus officiel de devenir un CMI officiel.
>
>PROCESSUS DE DEVENIR UN IMC OFFICIEL
>Le processus de débuts de devenir un CMI officiels commence avec le
>remplissage
>de cette formulaire de demande de Nouveau CMI:
>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCForm
>
>Après ca, cet CMI est considéré officiellement comme "un CMI en formation".
>Quelqu'un du list new ­imc contactera le nouveau-cmi. Normalement lles
>envoiang
>quelques documents de base de CMI pour les informe sur le Réseau et les aider
>accomplissent toutes les petites adaptations dont elles peuvent avoir besoin.
>Ces documents sont disponibles ci-dessous et c’est bons que de nouveaux CMI
>soir  au courant ce document :
>http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/NewIMCFormFr
>
>André ; vous savez que si vous envoi le email de Joram au lists de process et
>communications, ils perdront das le list et rien ne se produira. Vous devez
>ecrire une proposition et indiquez 14jours limit de discussion dans le propos.
>S'il y ait de soucis ils  seront adressés. C'est-à -dire, vous intitulerez
>votre courrier : Proposition pour la provision d'un Domain Name provisoir et
>lie’CMI-EAST Afrique à la page de indy principale. Si Joram et les 
>autres de
>CMI-Est Afrique peut remplir le formulaire de demande maintenant, alors vous
>pouvez énoncer dans votre proposition; que bien qu'ils ne soient pas un plein
>member de reseau indymedia qu’ ils sont dans le processus de new-imc et
>continueront le processus, mais maintenant doivent se concentrer sur des
>développements en Uganda (ceci naturellement devrai être confirmé par Joram
>et d'autres). Alors vous énoncerez dans votre proposition que donnant
>l'urgence de la situation en Uganda, s'il n'y a aucune objection après 
>14jours
>(essayez d'écrire la date exacte) que la proposition sera considérée comme
>passé. Après 14days s'il n'y a aucune objection, informerez la liste
>imc-process que la proposition a passé et vous expédierez les email de
>proposition et d'information à la liste imc-tech. Les gens à de imc-tech
>travaillent beaucoup plus rapidement et je suis sûr après 24hours de
>reception de vos emails CMI-Est Afrique sera énuméré sur indymedia.org 
>et un
>domain indymedia.
>
>
>Good luck with reporting from Kampala (?)
>Sphinx
>
>p.s. excusez mon Francais
>
>
>Quoting andrés <apb at swissmail.org>:
>
> > Does anyone have any objection if I forward this to the main
> > imc-communication list (I don't know about tech, in my current
> > incarnation)?
> >
> > I guess the new-imc process ought to be dealt with, eventually, also?
> >
> > (I'll wait a while for replies before doing anything).
> >
> > -- Je regret, aprés apprendre parler espagnole, j'ai presque oublier
> > comme m'expreser en français. Mais toujours c'est possible
> > rapprendre, n'est ce pas?
> >
> > imc at alluta.org dijo el 25/02/2006 18:30:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I'm sorry I can't participate in any discussions at the moment as
> >> we're trying
> >> to cover news on the new developments in Uganda.
> >> Can someone contact the imc-tech-team to link up East-Africa imc
> >>
> >> see latest stories at
> >> www.alluta.org
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Salut tous,
> >> Je suis désolé que je ne puisse participer à aucunes discussions
> >> en ce moment
> >> comme nous essayons de couvrir des nouvelles sur les nouveaux
> >> développement en
> >> Ouganda.
> >> Peut quelqu'un contacter l'imc-tech-team pour associer Afrique de 
> l'est imc
> >>
> >> voir les dernières histoires Ã
> >> www.alluta.org
> >>
> >> égards,
> >>
> >> joram
>
>
>
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