[Imc-africa] "the correct channels"?

Mon Oct 9 17:29:03 UTC 2006

> No offence meant to anyone, but what is this about "the correct
> channels"?

Hi Peter ! You are right. We do not have and should not according to my 
opinion
have any direct or indirect hierarchy which will question the indymedia MAIN
VALUE which is participation and horizontal organizing.

I think you are right that different individuals should engage in the
fundraising with organizations and groups they know, writing proposals that
deal with the concerns of the particular funders in more details. That is why
we have the archives of the list and the wiki pages to provide everybody with
enough information to be able to either do fundraising, collect equipment, or
just share ideas of what they think could improve the WSF-IMC process.

> From our perspective the most important things to do are to
> coordinate what we are doing, and to get something done, ASAP with
> regards to funding. I strongly suspect in the end there won't be one
> single proposal, but rather different proposals to different funders for
> different components of our work. This is a way of spreading the load /
> hedging your bets. Looking forward to seeing your proposal and lets get
> this show on the road!

Thus Glenda, you could discuss with mechel and the other folks from indymedia
Switzerland to join the imc-africa list and bring their ideas on board as well
as start doing fundraising for the event or collect equipments. I just learnt
from Mechel that she is interest in being involve in indymedia growth in
Africa, especially after her trip to Cameroon and Ambazonia last year or so.
Kenya is surely a chance to do much in that respect.

YET I'LL ADVICE THOUGH, THAT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DOCUMENTATION AND KEEPING
EVERYONE UPDATED, IT WILL BE NICE TO DROP A LINE ON THE LIST ABOUT FUNDRAISING
INTIATIVES THAT WE MAY ENGAGE IN AS INDIVIDUALS.

Till later. I must go now.
Sphinx

Quoting Peter van Heusden <pvh at wfeet.za.net>:

> Coil radio? No, never heard of. Do you have contact details?
>
> BTW. Fabian, are you around? I haven't heard anything from you recently.
>
> As to licensing, this must be investigated ASAP. Here in South Africa a
> low power radio station was run unlicensed for some months before it was
> shut down by authorities, but obviously how you approach this stuff is
> up to local people to decide.
>
> Peter
>
> Glenda Loebell wrote:
>> Hello All
>> The CH/Swiss indymedia people only meet tonight,
>> Monday evening, and will hand in a proposal tomorrow
>> to the correct channels-Fabian, Jay or Sphinx.  We
>> have radio/ radio wireless and low powered experienced
>> people in the group.
>> Licences are not important only in the context of it
>> causing major problems for the locals and it threatens
>> them from a human rights perspective when the WSF is
>> over.
>> There was also in SA the coil radio-Peter do you have
>> contact with that group. They opereated in CT and had
>> links or ties to Sweden.
>>
>> Glenda
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Peter van Heusden <pvh at wfeet.za.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for this Jay. I've read through the
>>> transcripts. A couple of
>>> clarifications:
>>>
>>> Firstly, there are people in Jo'burg affiliated with
>>> IMC South Africa
>>> who have experience running a low power radio
>>> station. This is from the
>>> project  that Erez Gudes and others helped with. It
>>> would be good to get
>>> some of them to Nairobi if a low power project is
>>> planned (licensed or
>>> unlicensed). Unfortunately, as far as I know,
>>> they're all men. Nicolas
>>> (nicolas at red.org.za) knows more.
>>>
>>> Secondly, is the 'company'  was talking about
>>> that Fabian approach
>>> Stiftung Umverteilen? We need to get a funding
>>> proposal in to them ASAP.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Jay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> At 10/2/2006, Peter van Heusden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Sphinx
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm confused... a Conference Call on the WSF-IMC
>>>>>
>>> on a US shared-call
>>>
>>>>> line?? Why??? As I see it from this list, most of
>>>>>
>>> the interested in a
>>>
>>>>> Nairobi IMC is from Africa and Europe...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, so what happened? Who participated? Is
>>>>>
>>> there a transcript / MP3
>>>
>>>>> of the call available somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> IMC-South Africa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The conference call was a follow-up to the call a
>>>>
>>> few weeks ago, before any
>>>
>>>> organizing for the Nairobi/WSF IMC happened,
>>>>
>>> between members of the
>>>
>>>> Prometheus Radio Project
>>>>
>>> (http://www.prometheusradio.org), an organization
>>>
>>>> that builds low-power radio stations mainly in the
>>>>
>>> United States, but with
>>>
>>>> some experience worldwide (recently in Tanzania),
>>>>
>>> Chris form Antioch
>>>
>>>> College who has connections with Maseno University
>>>>
>>> in Kenya, Sphinx and
>>>
>>>> yours truly.
>>>>
>>>> Before the first call, an idea was brewing for
>>>>
>>> Prometheus to help build a
>>>
>>>> station in conjunction with Maseno and connect it
>>>>
>>> with some independent
>>>
>>>> media organizing at the WSF.  During the first
>>>>
>>> call we came up with the
>>>
>>>> notion that there could/should be a
>>>>
>>> convergence-based IMC at the WSF, as
>>>
>>>> long as there was support for the idea from
>>>>
>>> Indymedia organizers in Kenya
>>>
>>>> and throughout Africa, and that Prometheus would
>>>>
>>> support the project by
>>>
>>>> working, most likely with Maseno, to build a
>>>>
>>> low-power radio station there
>>>
>>>> that could be used throughout the WSF, and then
>>>>
>>> move to Maseno
>>>
>>>> University.  The first call resulted in this
>>>>
>>> e-mail I sent to the
>>>
>>>> imc-africa list a few days afterward:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2006-August/0814-kb.html.
>>
>>>> A lot of great organizing in Kenya and on the
>>>>
>>> imc-africa list has happened
>>>
>>>> since the first conference call!  Prometheus
>>>>
>>> organizers aren't on the
>>>
>>>> imc-africa list (well, weren't -- a couple are
>>>>
>>> going to join), so, this
>>>
>>>> call was a follow-up to make sure Prometheus knew
>>>>
>>> what has been going
>>>
>>>> on.  Plus, for Prometheus to dedicate money, time
>>>>
>>> and techincal expertise
>>>
>>>> they need to know the radio station they help
>>>>
>>> build will have a life after
>>>
>>>> the WSF, so they also wanted to check in with any
>>>>
>>> progress that has been
>>>
>>>> made involving Maseno.   So, this call was an
>>>>
>>> update from the one that
>>>
>>>> happened before, meant to keep Prometheus in the
>>>>
>>> loop, and certaiinly not
>>>
>>>> any substitute for organizing that's being done on
>>>>
>>> the imc-africa list and
>>>
>>>> in Nairobi.
>>>>
>>>> I know Sphinx tried to find a way to connect John
>>>>
>>> in Nairobi and a couple
>>>
>>>> others on the call.  I joined the call late and
>>>>
>>> left early so I don't know
>>>
>>>> if that was able to happen.  I think Chris already
>>>>
>>> sent notes from the call
>>>
>>>> -- I'll try to dig them out of my e-mail and
>>>>
>>> forward them along.
>>>
>>>> I don't know if Hannah, Petri and Siyade from
>>>>
>>> Prometheus have joined this
>>>
>>>> list yet, but if so, hi.  They're fantastic
>>>>
>>> organizers and really nice
>>>
>>>> people as well!
>>>> Jay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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