[Imc-africa] INDYMEDIA Re: site

Fri Sep 8 03:35:44 PDT 2006

Hello

My opinion is,  we as indymedia stay outside on the
fringes of WSF however having said that many of the
official people in the WSf and delegates from NGO's in
Africa are social/political activist and many straddle
both divides.

I am of the opinion, we with our experience and skills
should try to reach out to many of the fringe
communities and individuals who can profit from
attending workshops and having, for the first time the
opportunity for  interaction and exchange with other
African/European/international  people interested in
exchange and support -issues-skills etc.
Perhaps we could consider 1/2 events that  includes
the official WSF people and outside groups/and their
activities. One serious event and then an after
party-these possiblities create spaces for people to
exchange  on multi levels.
Most of the WSF people come from the NGO sector and
many have had exposure so why not create an exposure
platform for the other.

I also hear from the discussion that we are moving to
a more formal approach-this is from my opinion a way
to ensure clarity.

the  goal/s, objectives, concrete activities, role
players, roles, resources check lists,  finance check
list to include a check list for visa application and
time frames,  proposed income and expenditure.

I know the Zim. people are interested to attend-some
of the activist are being approached at this very
minute to attend the formal forum via a formal
structure in Zims. 
The SA and the Zims. people have established a close
working relationship and can perhaps suggest some
saliate points for inclusion.

What happened to the Kongo-(Jean)/Angola- (the radio
journalist) application?   
Can we have contact with the English Cameroon (Frank)
group to put them into contact with the Bamenda
people.

 *We have a Guinea Conecre group operating out of
Switzerland who are interest.

Nice day
Glenda

--- sphinx <sphinx at indymedia.org> wrote:

> I'm not exactly sure where the IMC-Kenya application
> is at the moment.
> But I do know that there was a volunteer from Italy
> who was thier sponsor.
> They have got an indymedia.org domain and a full
> flesh site.
> www.kenya.indymedia.org
> 
> Oloo should know better where exactly they are in
> the new-imc process 
> becuase he
> served like contact.
> It will indeed be great if we get to use their site
> for the reporting.
> Sphinx
> 
> Quoting Jay <idiot at jaysand.com>:
> 
> > Fabian,
> >
> >> >
> >> > For the IMCs stand towards the WSF, I think we
> need
> >> > to discuss this a
> >> > bit more profundly. This will also help us to
> start
> >> > working on a
> >> > program/content for the convergence. Some
> >> > questions/ideas :
> >> > To what degree to we understand ourselves as
> part of
> >> > the WSF and to
> >> > what degree to we understand as a independent
> media,
> >> > remaining in a
> >> > critical distance to the WSF? This is about the
> role
> >> > of the IMC
> >> > convergence at the WSF. This also relates to
> the
> >> > potential aim and
> >> > outcome of the convergence.  I think we all
> agree on
> >> > the need to ensure
> >> > that the stopover of the WSF circus has a local
> >> > impact in the region.
> >> > How can Indymedia in its pariticipation help
> that
> >> > this is the case? How
> >> > can we include more people in Kenia and around
> in
> >> > East-Africa in to the
> >> > process of independent media activism, reaching
> >> > beyond the scope of
> >> > already connected activists? Where should
> workshops
> >> > take place, inside
> >> > or outside the WSF? Where is the radio and the
> IMC
> >> > to be located, so
> >> > people fell easy to walk inside and take part?
> What
> >> > would be other
> >> > means of outreach? for example, should we try
> to go
> >> > down different
> >> > software routes in regards to open-publishing (
> for
> >> > example with
> >> > blogs)?
> >> >
> >
> > These are all such wonderful questions!  Most of
> my experience with
> > organizing convergence-based IMCs has taken place
> at events like World
> > Bank-IMF protests, at which clearly we were on the
> outside.  I did go to
> > the WSF in Porto Alegre a couple years ago.  The
> IMC space was located in
> > the "youth camp," which was outside the official
> convention area.  I don't
> > think most of the WSF participants knew we were
> there.  That did give us a
> > nice sense of independence, though, and we did a
> lot of coverage of events
> > that questioned the WSF, and even some protests
> that went against it,
> > though on the other hand we had very few resources
> and could have
> > benefitted from being more public.
> >
> > All your questions go right to the question of the
> goals of this IMC.  Is
> > our primary goal to provide coverage of the actual
> WSF or are we going to
> > mainly focus on workshops, trainings, etc, for WSF
> participants to empower
> > them to make independent media?  We can certainly
> do both, and perhaps
> > equally, as long as there are enough people
> willing to participate, so
> > that's an option too.  While the WSF itself may
> not make for the most
> > exciting coverage -- lots and lots and lots of
> panel discussions --
> > certianly there are going to be a lot of great
> ideas to discuss and
> > wonderful people to interview.  We can have people
> "learn by doing,"
> > teaching people how to interview, especially using
> cheap audio equipment,
> > or learn how to write articles and post them on
> the internet.  (Which leads
> > to another question -- which site will we use to
> post information?  If the
> > imc-kenya group is up for it, maybe we should
> support imc-kenya's last
> > steps through the new-imc process and have them
> debut their site at that
> > time?  Or should we try to set up a
> wsfnairobi.indymedia.org site?)
> >
> > I guess I'm just throwing out more questions to
> add to your questions.  The
> > important thing is, these seem to be absolutely
> the right questions to be
> > asking ourselves at this point.
> > Jay
> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot for the discussion,
> >> >   hope to hear from you all soon...
> >> >
> >> > Fabian
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am 30.08.2006 um 08:38 schrieb sphinx:
> >> >
> >> > > This far much of the activity going on is
> >> > information gathering and we
> >> > > really
> >> > > need speed-up preparation if we are to get a
> >> > successful event in
> >> > > January which
> >> > > is just five few months away. Prometheus
> radio is
> >> > putting together a
> >> > > list for
> >> > > material we hope to buy locally and use in
> the
> >> > construction of the
> >> > > radio
> >> > > station.
> >> > > I tried to put up a wiki page today for the
> event,
> >> > so we could started
> >> > > gathering
> >> > > all these fantastic ideas that are coming up
> in
> >> > the mailing list to
> >> > > one place to
> >> > > avoid us losing them  to the list archive.
> But
> >> > unfortunately the
> >> > > indymedia
> >> > > documentation wiki site is down and as soon
> as the
> >> > tech folks get it
> >> > > up and
> >> > > running I'll try to do just that.
> >> > >
> >> > > POINTS THAT CAN BE dealt WITH IMMEDIATELY:
> >> > > Very salient points were raised in the list
> that
> >> > need be dealt with
> >> > > right away.
> >> > >
> >> > > 1-Fabian proposed that we start the meeting
> >> > earlier may be a week
> >> > > before the
> >> > > forum.  Since the forum will go from January
> 20 to
> >> > 25, 2007. The
> >> > > Convergence
> >> > > media Center in Nairobi Kenya for the  7th
> World
> >> > Social Forum (WSF)
> >> > > should go
> >> > > operational from January 13th 2007.
> >> > > Is there any objection to this ?.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2-The Mali collective has indicated their
> desire
> >> > to send 3 delegates
> >> > > to the
> >> > > event. They have further
> >> > > indicated that they will take time of to
> research:
> >> > - necessary visa
> >> > > formality
> 
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