[Imc-africa] nairobi reflections academic style

[M Coul]

Merci à vous souvent de penser souvent aux francophones. C'est aussi un des
facteurs qui nous bloque de participer aux réflexions.



2007/8/15, sphinx <sphinx at indymedia.org>:
>
> Hi fabian! That is a great piece of work there. I'm unable to do a kind
> academic
> style critic of the the article at the moment, but i think I should
> mention a
> few things that came to mind as I read through.
>
> In both the 2004 indymedia/alternative media Conference in Dakar and the
> Convergence indymedia Center at the 2007 WSF in Nairobi Kenya, while
> conscious
> that people in Africa will have a harder time raising funds for
> transportation
> we did try to raise funds for all who wanted to make the trip even
> those in the
> global north who did not or could not afford the cost but wanted to make
> the
> trip. In the same way we offer travail scholarship and support to
> activists in
> the global north to go to events like the US Social forum or in Germany to
> go
> to the European Social forum in Florence, Paris or London or events in
> Berlin
> for people in Stuttgart and vice versa. True that in both cases we ended
> up
> being able to raise funds mostly just to cover the transportation cost for
> the
> Africans but that does not disqualify the fact we tried to raise funds for
> the
> transportation of people in the global north who wanted to make the trip.
>
> Wile internet has been very instrumental in the growth of indymedia, the
> fact
> remains that indymedia groups insist and are encouraged to be grassroots
> based
> organizations and some of the most grassroots integrated and successful
> indymedia groups are in South America (brazil, Chiapas) where there is a
> serious lack of internet access as well.
>
> Definitely the aid discussion referenced in part of this paper comes
> from a very
> mainstream angle which makes it a bit confusing for me. The radical
> perspective
> of the aid discuss is surely something I cannot dare to torch here right
> now.
> Check the work of  Denis Bruttos, Francois Xavier Verchave and Patrick
> Bond.
> Seeing aid from that perspective makes it kind of difficult to relate to
> the
> inference made on this work.
>
> In that note, the growth of indymedia in Africa at least from the frame of
> the
> indymedia Africa Working group discussion that I have been party to, has
> been
> driven by the overall desire to introduce indymedia to media makers
> everywhere
> than in the frame of promoting  new media and ICTs in Africa.
> The fact remains that all the problems listed in this article in the
> context of
> a Africa global North project are the same problems indymedias in the
> global
> north experienced and are experiencing.
>
> Indymedia Prague which will eventually lead to the birth of indymedia
> Germany
> and other indymedias across western Europe was set-up and run with funds
> and
> resources from people from different countries-US and UK with hardly
> any people
> from Prague involved. And it took more than 3years for a new group to try
> serious efforts to start an indymedia in Prague which is unfortunately has
> not
> been that successful either. And of course most of those who showed up in
> Prague  decided what was right for the event and where Teachers at the
> event.
> And that has been the experience, in all events/indymedia centers be it in
> Paris or London at the European Social forum or at the Anti-G8 protest we
> have
> people who have skills teaching those who do not have those skills and
> most
> often than not those with those skills come in from different towns or
> sometimes countries.
>
> Ok that is enough rambling on my part. As I said it is a great article
> and definitely a great piece to send us working our brains about what
> we are doing
> and what we wish to archive.
>
> Sphinx
>
>
>
> Quoting fabian <fab at in-no.org>:
>
> > Hi everybody.
> > after some time of reflection and thinking I have co-written an
> > academic style paper about our convergence in Nairobi in January,
> > evaluating some of its aspects and discussing issues of new media and
> > radical democracy from the perpective of grassroots globalization.
> > I have used in it material that we shared, like the interviews I
> > conducted with some of you, stuff you wrote on our mailinglist and
> > also from your blogs.
> > I have tryed to be true to what you have said and what you wanted to
> > say, but I defintely wanted to give you a chance to comment to make
> > sure that I have got it right, before this goes out.
> > Also, and similarily important, I would like to ask you on your
> > opinion on this piece and to what degree it reflects your experience
> > and reflections around the convergence.
> > Again this is for the purpose of making the whole thing more accurate.
> > I have written the paper together with Sian Sullivan.
> > She was not involved Nairobi and therefore contributed an immensely
> > important outsider perspective that greatly increased the value of
> > our reflections for people who were not with us in Keren and over the
> > last four years.
> >
> > You can download the document from here
> > http://www.in-no.org/pdfs/review2.doc
> >
> > Please give us an idea of what you think about it, best within the
> > next two weeks.
> > I hope to hear from you all soon.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Fabian
> >
> >
> >
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