[Imc-africa] imc kenya website- patronizing and authoritarian??

[sphinx]

Patronizing and authoritarian?? These are exactly the kinds of words I take
serious offense with.

> We would like to note in passing that some of the comments coming 
> from friends and comrades like Sphinx have bordered on the 
> patronizing and authoritarian. Our understanding of Indymedia concept 
> is a network of INDEPENDENT centres that work in harmony as well as 
> autonomy. I was certainly taken aback when Oloo shared with me a 
> message from Sphinx demanding imperiously why our site has not been 
> updated for ages. Please folks, let us treat each other as comrades 
> in the same fight working for the same broad goals rather than these 
> unneccessarily divisive  dichotomies.
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2007-January/0107-l8.html


First of all I did NOT IMPERIOUSLY DEMAND WHY “YOUR” SITE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED
FOR AGES.
I simply in asking for information on administrative access to the site 
pointed
out the fact that there is NOT a single feature on the site (purpose for
administrative access to indymedia websites) and there is NOT a single FEATURE
till NOW.
What you obviously do not know is that this is the ONLY website with an
indymedia.org domain name without a feature.
Another thing you do not know is that Blicero was NOT suppose to give out that
domain name without indymedia-Kenya going through the entire new-imc process,
which they have not done till today and which would have not created this
situation of a site with that domain name and no feature.
And yet you still do not know that I AM ONE OF THE FOUNDERS and supporters of
indymedia Kenya. I Introduced John to indymedia while he was in a trip to
Germany and supported and help with the application both in explaining the
details and in helping the application in New-IMC. And in helping Kenya 
get two
slots for the first Regional Indymedia Conference in Dakar. All of that was
obviously not “Patronizing and authoritarian”.

I do not know what upset you about that email. If it was the point about there
not being a feature on the indy-Kenya site or it was my complaining 
against the
WSF organizers, which complain I went to a great length to put mildly my anger
at the waste they where causing us to bear. We have people like Ange 
and others
not being able to make it to the event because we could not raise enough money
to buy their tickets, while the WSF folks are causing us to loss more than 750
Euros to reschedule the tickets of the African delegates, because they (WSF)
treated their(African delegates) clearance letter with relative
lightheartedness.  That is not talking about the amount of personal money I
spent in phone calls to them (WSF). This, when I know that for ALL the other
social forums the groups working on visas did the work to make sure African
delegates do not get this third class treatment they are getting from the
Kenyan event, and even organizing funds for tickets for some delegates. 
And you
do not want me to complain?? And you immediately go for the words “Patronizing
and authoritarian”???.
That, Grace is pretty SAD.
Valentine


Quoting Grace Waita <gracewaita at yahoo.co.in>:

> Anna et al:
>
> Thanks for all those incredible offers of support. We would certainly 
> need any kind of solidarity. Some of the techies who pledged to 
> support the site fell by the way side and Oloo who used to do a lot 
> of uploading of info is up to his neck with WSF coordination stuff.
>
> Blicero really worked hard to help set up Indymedia Kenya two and a 
> half years ago- kudos to you comrade.
>
> We would like to note in passing that some of the comments coming 
> from friends and comrades like Sphinx have bordered on the 
> patronizing and authoritarian. Our understanding of Indymedia concept 
> is a network of INDEPENDENT centres that work in harmony as well as 
> autonomy. I was certainly taken aback when Oloo shared with me a 
> message from Sphinx demanding imperiously why our site has not been 
> updated for ages. Please folks, let us treat each other as comrades 
> in the same fight working for the same broad goals rather than these 
> unneccessarily divisive  dichotomies.
>
> Some good news: maybe we will be able to bring some people for the 
> suggested html workshops so that we can beef up our local presence on 
> the ground.
>
> On a different note: we were thrilled: John, Oloo and I to meet once 
> again with Fabian that I had first encountered in Dakar in March 2004 
> and Andy who were all meeting for the first time. As I write these 
> lines, John is at the airport picking someone else up. And he started 
> early collecting the Ugandan friends.
>
> Grace