[Imc-africa] Delegations / committees
Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu
molefindlovu at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 23 01:32:00 PDT 2011
Greetings comrades.
Thank you for these mails it all the inputs sound very promising indeed.
Apologies for missing our last IRC chat the logs have provided me with an
update. Kindly indulge me for this maill is long(ish).
Delegations:
On the matter of delegates; i sent along last week rough estimates of ticket
fares for delegates listed on our archive; may i make a suggestion?
Given the cost of ticket fares and a standing proposal by comrade Amy that we
work with a figure of four (4) delegates for each collective from the Africa and
the global network; that we adopt Ammy's proposal and a principle that each
collective tries to fundraise for additional delegates' travel and accomodation
costs in Durban. This might bring down the overall budget which we send out to
potential funders.
Additionally; that we set a cut off date for submission of final delegations to
attend the IMC-Africa convegence to July 10th 2011 so as to allow for the
applications for funding to be sent to as many doors as is possible and give
ourselves enough time for contingency situations (roughly two months).
Program:
Thank you to comrades Emmem and the programming collective for leading the way
for content concept proposals. I agree with the broad conceptual frames
suggested by comrades. may i suggest that we consider making our program for the
upcomming convergence in Durban to be oriented towards more media output i.e.
coverage of actions, issues, stories , experiences and running a media
production facility similar to how our comrades at Ciranda operated during the
WSF in Dakar media centre. that is, use the skills we shared in Dakar (a very
neccesary preliminary excersise for us all) as a basis for media production
stratergy for Durban. This may mean less energy spent on introspective training
of IMC journalists and more stratergy sessions around coverage of particular
alternative media interventions. getting our media infrustructure ready for the
COP event and assigning roles and reporting modes. That we beef up our common
platform the IMC-Africa website to be a real source of information for civil
society actors interested in the happenings on the ground?
Finances:
Could we request all comrades who have indicated that they will take up the task
of producing a generic funding proposal for the IMC-Africa convergence to please
please please try get us a close to final draft proposal as we have really run
out of time to send this to sponsors. Should comrades need support in this
regard please indicate this so we can all chip in.
Kulture:
There has been great responses regarding the Kulture working group/committee- in
the next few hours i will be forwarding mails to this list with beople keen to
partake and assist where possible especially in bringing Dead prez and other
cultural groups down to Durban for the event, could we get some indication on
how we are prgressing on this front.
Hoping these inputs are taken in the best spirit as they are intended and that
the encourage responses and discussions from here onwards.
Comrade Sphinx- how are you? we are sourly missing your inputs on everything
please send us a salut so we know you are OK.
Molefi reporting to global Africa- over and out.
One LOVE
Machine translations into French follow below:
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Salutations camarades.
Merci pour ces mails c'est toutes les entrées sonores effectivement très
prometteur. Toutes mes excuses pour manquer notre dernier chat IRC les journaux
m'ont fourni une mise à jour. Veuillez me livrer à cette maill est longue (ish).
Délégations:
Sur la question des délégués; j'ai envoyé le long estimations semaine dernière
approximative du prix des billets pour les délégués figurant sur notre archive,
puis-je faire une suggestion?
Étant donné le coût des tarifs des billets et une proposition de date par le
camarade Amy que nous travaillons avec un chiffre de quatre (4) délégués de
chaque collectif de l'Afrique et le réseau mondial; que l'on adopte la
proposition Ammy et un principe que chaque collectif tente de lever des fonds
des frais de déplacement et d'hébergement des délégués supplémentaires à Durban.
Cela pourrait faire baisser le budget global dont nous envoyons aux bailleurs de
fonds potentiels.
De plus, que nous avons fixé une date butoir pour la soumission des délégations
à assister à la finale convegence IMC-Afrique au 10 Juillet 2011 afin de
permettre les demandes de financement pour être envoyés à autant de portes que
possible et de nous donner assez de temps pour situations d'urgence (environ
deux mois).
Programme:
Merci aux camarades Emmem et la programmation collective ouvre la voie pour des
propositions de concept de contenu. Je suis d'accord avec les cadres conceptuel
général proposé par les camarades. Puis-je suggérer que nous considérons comme
faisant notre programme pour la convergence upcomming à Durban pour être orienté
vers une couverture médiatique plus à savoir la sortie d'actions, les questions,
d'histoires, d'expériences et d'exploiter une installation de production de
médias similaire à la façon dont nos camarades à Ciranda exploité pendant le FSM
dans Dakar, centre des médias. c'est-à-utiliser les compétences que nous avons
partagé à Dakar (une excersise très préliminaire nécessaire pour nous tous)
comme base pour la production de médias stratergy pour Durban. Cela peut
signifier moins d'énergie consacrée à la formation de journalistes introspectifs
IMC et les séances autour de la couverture stratergy d'interventions
particulières des médias alternatifs. obtenir notre infrustructure média prêt
pour l'événement COP et les modes de l'attribution des rôles et des rapports.
Que nous renforcer notre plate-forme commune le site IMC-Afrique pour être une
véritable source d'informations pour les acteurs de la société civile intéressés
par les événements sur le terrain?
Finances:
Pourrions-nous demander à tous les camarades qui ont indiqué qu'ils prendront la
tâche de produire une proposition de financement générique pour la convergence
IMC-Afrique s'il vous plaît s'il vous plaît s'il vous plaît essayer de nous
trouver une proche de la proposition du projet final, nous avons vraiment manqué
de temps pour envoyer des les commanditaires de ce faire. Si camarades ont
besoin de soutien dans ce domaine s'il vous plaît l'indiquer afin que nous
puissions tous les copeaux po
Kulture:
Il a été d'excellentes réponses concernant la Kulture group/committee- dans les
prochaines heures je transmettrai mails à cette liste avec beople désireux de
participer et d'aider lorsque cela est possible surtout en apportant Dead Prez
et d'autres groupes culturels vers Durban pour l'événement, Pourrions-nous avoir
quelques indications sur la façon dont nous sommes prgressing sur ce front.
Espérant ces entrées sont prises dans le meilleur esprit comme ils sont destinés
et que les réponses d'encourager et de débats partir d'ici.
Sphinx-faire Camarade êtes-vous? nous sommes amèrement manquants vos entrées sur
tout s'il vous plaît envoyez-nous un salut si nous savons que vous êtes OK.
Molefi rapports au global Afrique-over and out.
ONE LOVE
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From: Jean-Baptiste MULONGO KAULU <mulkajean at yahoo.fr>
To: African IMCs and the imc project in Africa <imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 4:55:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Imc-africa] Delegations / committees
Dear Monica
Happy to hearing from you about Caravana activities
All the best regarding this nice Work .
Jean Baptiste Mulongo
Indymedia RDCongo
Kinshasa
+243 810239637
--- En date de : Lun 13.6.11, nica <mofagio at gmail.com> a écrit :
> De: nica <mofagio at gmail.com>
> Objet: Re: [Imc-africa] Delegations / committees
> À: ald at riseup.net, "African IMCs and the imc project in Africa"
><imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>
> Date: Lundi 13 juin 2011, 14h26
> Amy and all,
> Thanks for the amazing work you are doing! Sorry for being
> absent from
> the conversations but I have been reading the logs while
> travelling.
> I second the idea of commitees, as a way to work towards
> Durban and
> account for the different tasks assigned or to be
> assigned.
> I will be based in Nairobi as of July and will reach out to
> John and
> others there.
> Once in Nairobi, I would like to help organizing the
> caravan that
> could pick up people from Nairobi and other cities across
> Zibabwe,
> Malawi, etc, down to Durban.
> We could maybe create a Caravan commitee that can deal with
> that specific task.
> I have a friend based in London who has had the experience
> to organize
> a caravan in India with different activists from rural
> areas. He would
> like to help out in this and other processes, so I have
> forwarded him
> the material about the Durban convergence and once he gets
> a sense of
> what is going on he will join the chat.
>
> What do people in this list think about the caravan? And
> what do
> people think in those countries where the caravan could
> travel to?
>
> peace, monica
>
>
>
> On 6/13/11, Amy L. Dalton <ald at riseup.net>
> wrote:
> > wow, thanks molefi for your quick work!
> >
> > i also support the culture committee. perhaps
> committees that form could be
> > requested to report on certain intervals? in my view,
> committees and task
> > forces and such lead to a more robust horizontalism --
> but of course this
> > requires that the committees and task forces are
> honest and actually
> > accountable to the whole.
> >
> > are there differences of opinion on this point on the
> list? if so we might
> > want to discuss it more explicitly or do some reading
> together or
> > something.
> >
> > ~ amy
> >
> >
> > On 6/13/11 6:09 AM, Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Russsell greetings IMC Africa massive!
> >>
> >> i whole heartedly support your observation
> about formin an imc- Kulture
> > crew,(let us be careful of committees they can turn
> into cabals...ha..
> > ha!)
> >>
> >> on a anada note i was tasked with collating the
> delegation lists from
> > the public archives and come up with the costs. please
> find copied
> > below a rough list of how we are standing at the
> moment with some
> > details outstanding; i will then try to add up
> possible transport costs
> > based on these.
> >>
> >> hope is alive and so are we...:)
> >>
> >> peace and unity Africa be free.
> >>
> >> motho
> >>
> >> *Proposed # of delegates; IMC collective; URL on
> Archive; Proposed
> > Names; Gender*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. *(12)* *IMC Nigeria*
> > *http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-April/0414
> > -ve.html &
> > http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-June/0610-vv.html
> >
><http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-April/0414%20&%20http:/lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-June/0610-vv.html%20-ve.html>:*1.
>
> > Onyekachi Okoro Emmanuel 2. Philip Kalio 3.
> Styvn Obodoekwe
> >>
> >> 4. Constance Meju 5. Tega Edeki 6.
> Regina Fabian 7. Stella Ijeoma
> >> James-chuku 9. Don T. Gomez
> >>
> >> 2. *(4)* *IMC- DRC Congo
> >> **http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0525-eo.html*
> >>
> >> DRCongo delegates to attend the convergence in
> Durban1; Jean Baptiste
> > Mulongo ( MR )2; Bénoit Mbambu Mazunda (
> MR )3 Mariette Kalango
> > Mwayuma ( MRS )4 Sandra Akonga
> Omba (MRS )
> >>
> >> 3.*(2) IMC
> >>
>Philly.****http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0515-qc.html*
>
> > We’ll
> >> definitely send delegates from Philly IMC to
> COP17, at least 2Again, but
> > perhaps more.
> >>
> >> 4*. (8) IMC Senegal:
> >> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0527-q3.html
> *
> >>
> >> Nickname*Thiaat/ Touré; Denise Sow; Kilifeu,
> Sekou Diawara,
> >> Benedetta/bikomiko, Dominique/Robin des bois,
> Alioune Diop
> >>
> >> Pape Gadiaga
> >>
> >> 5. *(8) IMC
> >>
>Uganda-http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0527-eh.html*
> >>
> >>
> >> Names to be sent later
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 6. *(8) IMC
> >> Mali-http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0527-95.html*
> >>
> >> Voila, la proposition de liste du Mali;
> - Oumar Traore (M), -
> > Bintou (F), - Mariam Traore(F)
> >>
> >> - Aly Diallo(M), -
> Alassane Dicko(M), - Massantié Assétou
> >> Sangaré (F), - Mamadou Coulibaly
> (M)Moussa Coulibaly (M)
> >>
> >> *7*. *(**8)** IMC Kenya-
> > http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-May/0526-4u.html
> *
> >>
> >> Names forthcoming. Can explore the possibility of
> traveling by road
> > caravan style, then pick up comrades along the way in
> Tanzania, Zambia,
> > Malawi, Zimbabwe and Botswana.
> >>
> >> 8. *IMC Ambazonia*— to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 9. *(12) IMC- South Africa*-
> > *http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-africa/2011-March/0311-bl.html*
> > Malaodi Sekake, Jenny Boyce, Beverly
> Webster, Bongisipho Phewa,
> > Mthokozisi Ngcobo, Mambo Mukambilwa , Sandile Desmond
> Sekeleni,
> > Nokubonga ka Seme JHB/ CT to be confirmed.
> >>
> >> 10*. (6) IMC Zimbabwe- *to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 11*. (2) IMC Cairo/Egypt - *to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 12. *(4) IMC New York *to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 13.* (2) IMC Berlin/ Germany *to be confirmed
> >>
> >>
> >> 14. *(4)* *IMC Rwanda* to be confirmed IMC
> >>
> >> 15. *(2) IMC Caribbean regions* to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 16* (2) IMC Mozambique* to be confirmed
> >>
> >> 17*. (2) IMC Brazil/ Latin America* to be
> confirmed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> TOTAL Number of Delegates: 120 ( too high consider
> revising)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* russell shoatz <rshoatz at gmail.com>
> >> *To:* imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
> >> *Sent:* Mon, June 13, 2011 11:45:01 AM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Imc-africa] Imc-africa Digest, Vol
> 87, Issue 17
> >>
> >> Greetings All its Russell
> >>
> >> Sorry I couldn't log in... I propose a cultural
> committee to answer the
> > questions raised about fundraising (CDs,Dead Prez,
> Rage, Annie Defranco
> > ect.) in the states and abroad. This is very important
> as I have seen a
> > lot of efforts and RELATIONSHIPS in the past wasted
> >> because the Artist think that the org is
> unprofessional not
> >> understanding some of the basic Artist
> requirements ie(great sound ect.)
> > I would like to be point person for Dead Prez as I
> have already started
> > dialog with them about the project and have a history
> with them on these
> > type of events from my founding of BLU magazine. I
> feel it very
> > important that we create an image/package like Dee dee
> was saying but
> > geared specifically for the artist/musician... This
> will help us to come
> > across more organized/professional...
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:38 AM,
> >> <imc-africa-request at lists.indymedia.org
> >> <mailto:imc-africa-request at lists.indymedia.org>>
> wrote:
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> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>> 1. Re: LOGs for June 12 IRC
> Chat. (charles kimani)
> >>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Message: 1
> >>> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 07:38:45 +0100 (BST)
> >>> From: charles kimani <kochfmchalo at yahoo.co.uk
> >> <mailto:kochfmchalo at yahoo.co.uk>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Imc-africa] LOGs for June 12 IRC
> Chat.
> >>> To: African IMCs and the imc project in
> Africa
> >>> <imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
> >> <mailto:imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>>
> >>> Message-ID: <91404.54432.qm at web28514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:91404.54432.qm at web28514.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>> Hi guys greeting from Nairobi...my apologies
> have been away for some
> >> time,i will jump straight in on the fundraising i
> saw on an earlier
> > thread MI of dead prez? one wants to come through so
> here is ma two
> > cents..we got in our team a hiphop artist who has
> worked with MI one
> > before and he is like he can reach out at Mi and see
> the possibility of
> > doing a climate advocay track ...we can use it for
> fundraising..........
> >>> Warm Regards
> >>> Charles
> >>> I will not lose, for even in defeat, there?s a
> valuable lesson
> >> learned, so it evens up for me.? ?Jay Z? Blueprint
> 2
> >>> --- On Sun, 12/6/11, Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu
> <molefindlovu at yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:molefindlovu at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> >>> From: Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu <molefindlovu at yahoo.com
> >> <mailto:molefindlovu at yahoo.com>>
> >>> Subject: [Imc-africa] LOGs for June 12 IRC
> Chat.
> >>> To: imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org
> > <mailto:imc-africa at lists.indymedia.org>
> >>> Cc: imc-sa at lists.indymedia.org
> <mailto:imc-sa at lists.indymedia.org>
> > Date: Sunday, 12 June, 2011, 15:16
> >>> *** motho [~motho at 146.230.wkp.iq
> <mailto:motho at 146.230.wkp.iq>]
> has
> >> joined #africa
> >>> [15:16] *** motho deedee amy peter systier
> ekes @ChanServ mark alster
> >> rabble
> >>> [15:16] *** Channel created on Mon Feb 28
> 09:51:56 2011
> >>> [15:17] <deedee> hi molefi
> >>> [15:17] <motho> Greetings IMC Africa,
> apologies for my delay in
> >> reaching the chat
> >>> [15:17] <motho> hey deedee!
> >>> [15:17] *** ross [~user at vayj-86-87-125-092.jax.bellsouth.net
> >> <mailto:user at vayj-86-87-125-092.jax.bellsouth.net>]
> has joined #africa
> >>> [15:18] <motho> Hi Ross!
> >>> [15:18] <ross> what's up motho ?
> >>> [15:18] <motho> im kool.good to see you
> too
> >>> [15:19] <motho> Proposed Agenda:
> >>> [15:19] <motho>??
> >>> [15:19] <motho> 1. Opening and Intros/
> apologies ( 5-10min)
> >>> [15:19] <motho> 2. Updates and matters
> arising (20 min)
> >>> [15:19] <motho> 3. Funding stratergy and
> documentation (25 min) [15:19]
> > <motho> 4. Date of next session (5min)
> >>> [15:19] <motho> 5. Closure
> >>> [15:20] <motho> so our agenda is somting
> like this; shall we get onto
> >> the content matters?
> >>> [15:21] <ross> sure let's do it.
> >>> [15:21] <deedee> sounds good
> >>> [15:21] <motho> We urgently need to
> update our funding proposals so we
> >> can send them off.
> >>> [15:23] *** amy [~amy at 69.112.jqz.hwy
> <mailto:amy at 69.112.jqz.hwy>]
> has
> >> quit [Quit: CGI:IRC]
> >>> [15:23] *** amy [~amy at sil-2808o16o.dyn.optonline.net
> >> <mailto:amy at sil-2808o16o.dyn.optonline.net>]
> has joined #africa
> >>> [15:24] <motho> Hey Amy!
> >>> [15:25] <ross> motho: do we have funding
> proposal docs???I've not been
> >> paying very close attention over the last week.
> >>> [15:25] <motho> shud we expect more
> participants?
> >>> [15:25] <deedee> i haven't had to time
> read the proposals, but would
> >> like to help. also patrick b may have some ideas.
> >>> [15:26] <ross> he is the idea man
> afterall!
> >>> [15:26] <motho> Ross yeh; am tryin to
> pull it out just a sec.
> >>> [15:26] <deedee> where is sphinx?
> >>> [15:27] <amy> hi all, i tried to type a
> greeting before, did it go
> > thru?
> >>> [15:27] <motho> heres' the link
> >> https://docs.indymedia.org/Local/DURBAN-COP17-ConvergenceCenter
> >>> [15:27] <ross> amy: no greeting came
> through
> >>> [15:28] <motho> Hey Amy. we can see you
> now. Sphinx has not signed on
> > yet.
> >>> [15:29] <amy> hi, i can only be on for
> 20 minutes before church. i am
> >> working on expense documentation now.??could
> someone work with me...
> >>> [15:30] <amy> ... to identify what tasks
> need to be done first in
> >> order to enable the durban fundraising to go
> forward?
> >>> [15:30] <ross> amy: what do you need?
> >>> [15:30] <ross> lol
> >>> [15:30] <amy> sorry, a 2-part
> installment! :)
> >>> [15:31] <ross> I'm not sure I understand
> what we need to do from the
> >> Dakar budget that will affect the Durban budget.
> >>> [15:33] <deedee> The proposal needs some
> documentation of the Dakar
> >> meeting-- photos, video, annecdotal stories to
> make it real to
> >> funders.??the budget i know is realistic, but will
> scare off the funders
> > i am thinking of. maybe it would be best to not put
> the total, but break
> > into sections. perhaps by country.
> >>> [15:34] <amy> i think the budget needs
> updating based on the delegate
> >> numbers that are being sent currently. i think
> doing this would reduce
> > it by a good bit. this is a task someone could take
> on.
> >>> [15:35] <motho> most Africa delegates
> have not exceed ten people per
> >> group shall we limit delagation sizes to ten
> persons?
> >>> [15:35] <amy> motho, i had suggested
> less than this previously...
> > [15:36] <amy> ... i can't remember now what i
> suggested but it might
> >> have been 4?
> >>> [15:37] <motho> Ok that is fine also.
> lets agree and do the rest of
> >> the calculations. i volunteer to help what do i
> need to do?
> >>> [15:38] <motho> deedee we have quite a
> lot of material on the IMC
> >> Africa site we could use some of this?
> >>> [15:38] <amy> motho, all: to compile
> revised travel numbers, i would
> >> suggest the following:
> >>> [15:39] <amy> (1) go thru the imc-africa
> list archives and find all
> >> the emails where people reported delegate numbers
> and / or names. save
> > the urls for these emails so as to have this record.
> (sphinx has done
> > this with care in the past.)
> >>> [15:40] <amy> (2) make a tally of these
> numbers by country, and then
> >> search for plane fare estimates for each.
> >>> [15:40] <amy> is this helpful -- done.
> >>> [15:40] <motho> sounds doable- done.
> >>> [15:41] <amy> oh, one more thing, this
> would be in the last month
> >> only, since the request for delegates was issued
> about a month ago,
> > right? i just remember seeing it in the last month.
> kola just sent this
> > morning.
> >>> [15:41] <deedee> btw there is a good
> summary about indymedia africa by
> >> Sphinz at http://deepdishwavesofchange.org/taxonomy/term/2409??and
> > http://youtu.be/O2lmyn6y2Is??that should
> be brought to the attention of
> > potential funders.??and YES Molefi there is terrific
> stuff on the site.
> > All that is MUCH more important than obsessing over
> the Dakar budget
> > expenses. It's over. and it was great. let's get
> Durban going!
> >>> [15:42] <motho> agreed.
> >>> [15:42] <amy> dee dee, i'm not sure who
> is obsessing, but please try
> >> to keep it positive. i've been getting offlist
> requests from several
> > folks to deal with this so i've responded by making
> time. your comment
> > makes me feel like i'm being hit from both sides,
> critiqued for not
> > doing it, critiqued for doing it. just clarifying.
> >>> [15:44] <motho> i think deedee meant
> getting down to do the Durban
> >> portion henceforth :)
> >>> [15:44] <amy> i agree with that! lets
> focus forward.
> >>> [15:45] <ross> so do we want to create a
> more appealing funding
> >> request doc on the wiki page, or do we want to do
> that elsewhere?
> >>> [15:45] <motho> Ok. i will do #1 and #2
> on ammy's list- deadline?
> > [15:45] <motho> lets make it more appealing
> Ross/ all.
> >>> [15:45] <amy> LOL
> >>> [15:46] <amy> i agree with deedee's
> suggestion to incorporate images
> > etc.
> >>> [15:47] <motho> lets make a new final
> Call for delegates!
> >>> [15:47] <deedee> So what about doing a
> fundraising concert? would Dead
> >> Prez be interested in doing something in Philly or
> Brooklyn? that was
> > very helpful in seattle-- we got Rage and annie
> defranco.
> >>> [15:48] <motho>??deedee;Russel suggested
> this in his last mail. [15:48]
> > <deedee> i thought he was speaking of doing a
> concert in
> >> Durban which is also a great idea.
> >>> [15:49] <motho> he mentioned a pre-
> Durban fundraiser. as well ...i
> > think.
> >>> [15:50] <amy> its a great idea to follow
> up with russell on this. i
> >> think he's best reached on FB
> >>> [15:51] <deedee> I haven't been
> participating on the wiki but I'll try
> >> to put together some images and interviews re
> Dakar that might be useful
> > and it would be better??to do??it on the wiki
> >>> [15:51] <amy> that's awesome deedee,
> then this can be used for an
> >> appeal and other funding requests, right?
> >>> [15:52] <motho> I will send a
> consolidated delegates list with travel
> >> fare estimates early in the week.
> >>> [15:53] <amy> WOW! we're rolling. can i
> suggest two other tasks? and
> >> then i have to go.
> >>> [15:53] <deedee> that would be really
> good. btw i was impressed with
> >> the amount of women on the lists. make sure they
> don't get cut!
> >>> [15:53] <motho> Who is dealing with
> actual content of convergence meet
> >> in Durban- programs and activities?
> >>> [15:54] <ross> motho: I don't think
> anyone specifically.
> >>> [15:54] <motho> definately more women.
> how do we get down to planning
> >> content and duration of convergence?
> >>> [15:55] <ross> plenaries!
> >>> [15:55] <motho> LOL!!!
> >>> [15:55] <ross> ;)
> >>> [15:55] <motho> Less pleneries please!
> >>> [15:56] <ross> I'm happy to work on
> content planning.
> >>> [15:56] <motho> ross; you go boy! happy
> to chip in wher possible.
> > [15:57] <motho> Amy you had more inputs b4
> leaving us?
> >>> [15:57] <amy> yes, here are my two
> suggestions: * someone should reach
> >> out to UC-IMC about being our fiscal sponsor
> again, and perhaps try to
> > negotiate a lower fiscal sponsorship fee * someone
> should draft a letter
> > to X-Y, because they never gave funding to us, and
> that correspondence
> > got left hanging.??
> >>> [15:57] <amy> i could take on one of
> those; you can assign it to me
> >> and let me know.
> >>> [15:58] <amy> i will also send an update
> to list on reporting by early
> >> in the week.
> >>> [15:58] <amy> love you ALL --
> >>> [15:58] *** amy left #africa []
> >>> [15:59] <motho> Sounds like we are
> getting somewhere.
> >>> [15:59] <deedee> i know nicole (who is
> on west coast now and can't
> >> wake up this early!??would have some ideas and can
> work with emem maybe
> > to think about workshops. i am just now emailing her
> to be sure to read
> > the archive of this chat.
> >>> [15:59] <ross> yeah nicole had a number
> of suggestions a few meetings
> >> back.
> >>> [16:00] <motho> do you think the time
> shud be adjusted?
> >>> [16:00] <motho> at our next session?
> >>> [16:00] <ross> well...I'm never a good
> bet at 9am EST :(
> >>> [16:01] <motho> we aught to continue
> keeping in touch between IRC's.
> > [16:01] <ross> Agreed...I'm on this channel most
> of the time.
> >>> [16:01] <motho> Sunday is a very taxing
> day down here as well.
> >>> [16:01] <deedee> i think that connecting
> with the music community
> >> might be an interesting thing to discuss-- perhaps
> setting up an imc
> > africa fund for successful bands to contribute to.
> >>> [16:02] <ross> that's a great idea
> deedee
> >>> [16:02] <motho> That was one thing we
> missed in dakar.
> >>> [16:02] <ross> yeah...we should enhance
> the cultural components of the
> >> convergence I think.
> >>> [16:03] <ross> and by cultural I mean
> artistic.
> >>> [16:03] <motho> Agreed. We should try
> wrap up. I will send copies of
> >> the logs to the list? do we do this again next
> week? same time?
> >>> [16:04] <ross> or we could adjust the
> time...
> >>> [16:04] <motho> Will send #1 and #2
> tasks off lists by Tuesday. [16:05]
> > <deedee> I will contact Asif who did this
> magazine
> >> http://www.akpress.org/2001/items/awolmagazine??and
> would be a great
> > resource-- to lead a workshop and to help us set up a
> fund.
> >>> [16:05] <motho> any time before 6PM here
> in SA because transport is a
> >> mission.
> >>> [16:06] <deedee> gotta go babysit my
> grandson... glad to be on
> >> board.??take care.xx dd
> >>> [16:06] <ross> bye deedee
> >>> [16:06] <ross> motho: what time is it
> there now?
> >>> [16:07] <motho> bye deedee. ross it is
> 04:07 PM RSA.
> >>> [16:08] <ross> so do you need to end
> before 6pm?
> >>> [16:08] <motho> yep.
> >>> [16:08] <motho> 5.30PM is best.
> >>> [16:09] <ross> so maybe we try to begin
> @ 4:30pm RSA?
> >>> [16:09] <motho> Thats kool.
> >>> [16:09] <ross> this would give everyone
> west of me a semi-reasonable
> >> time to wake up.
> >>> [16:10] <motho> then so shall it be.
> >>> [16:10] <ross> ;)
> >>> [16:10] <ross> let there be light,
> brother.
> >>> [16:10] *** deedee [~deedee at nsr-94-48-12-937.nyc.res.rr.com
> >> <mailto:deedee at nsr-94-48-12-937.nyc.res.rr.com>]
> has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC
> > (EOF)]
> >>> [16:10] <motho> Lets close here for now
> and keep in touch through the
> >> week?
> >>> [16:11] <ross> sounds good...
> >>> [16:11] <motho> Take care ma brada from
> anada moda. ONE LOVE.
> >>> [16:12] <ross> ONE LOVE...talk to you
> soon!
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