IMC Edmonton meeting beig planned Re: [imc-alberta] Hello

[GMC]

Hi Lyn:
    Sorry for the delay, the mail came in at the bottom of my incoming mail,
I missed it...

However, yes Lyn I am still interested, but have a need to discuss it
further to see what  exactly is involved.

until later
Gaia
PS
 In you need my phone no. let me know.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ESPA/Lyn X" <espa2002 at shaw.ca>
To: "Alberta Independent Media Centre" <imc-alberta at lists.indymedia.org>;
"CPC/WALLY" <wallybel at shaw.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: IMC Edmonton meeting beig planned Re: [imc-alberta] Hello


> Hi All,
>
> FYI, Wally is in the middle of setting up a meeting (end of month?) for
those interested in reving AIMC (Edmonton-area folks anyway), outside of
this
> list. Wally will post more when it's set, and I hope that those who've
expressed interest in the revival can make it to the meeting. Also, I just
> wanted to add a comment to one of David's:
>
> > IMCs are entirely about volunteerism -- there are no
> > 'leaders', just people who are willing to do things.  Peops
> > who say they will do things and then do them, and manage to
> > function well in an environment of consensus...
>
> More importantly, people who say they will do things and then DON'T do
them not only hurt any organization in general, but also help contribute to
a
> sense of hopelessness, and create animosity, which is not uncommon on this
list. Several people offered to help moderate this list and NO ONE has
> actually made any effort to do so, with the exception of Gaia who I
haven't given info to yet because I thought one of the others was going to
follow
> through (too many cooks, you know). So Gaia, if you still want to
co-moderate, David and I can walk you through the process in the coming
weeks, get
> you doing something that you can, in fact, do 'remotely', seeing as you're
ouside of Edmonton!
>
> Lyn
>
> David Henry wrote:
> >
> > Hey Gaia,
> > I've been hesitating to answer the question "how can I help,
> > need some guidance!"
> >
> > First, because I think the best way for anyone to help with
> > anything is for them to discover what it is they really
> > enjoy doing.
> >
> > 1. If you enjoy doing something, you are more likely to also
> > get good at it, even if starting out without any experience.
> >
> > 2. If you truly enjoy doing something, you are more immune
> > to those inevitable, if momentary, failures.  Some activist
> > said this as (roughly paraphrasing) 'Have fun, because
> > activism is all about trying to change things that may take
> > a hundered years to change. Have fun, and keep in mind that
> > eventually things will change, but a lot of failure along
> > the way is normal.'
> >
> > This last one is really a 'big picture' perspective about
> > activism, not about running an IMC (which will reward
> > everyone with many moments of success along the way).  Note
> > that I also think it's important to feed your sense of
> > commitment to change in many other ways.  My own personal
> > 'motto' is "when in doubt, learn".
> >
> > Second, as IMC-Alberta (and IMC-Edmonton) is re-starting, it
> > will take time to get people identifying what it is they
> > want to accomplish and how best to do things.  (So, be
> > patient with yourself and others?)
> >
> > Much is already in place, but establishing a functioning
> > collective or sets of working groups (it's all about having
> > autonomous collectives that decide and plan things) will be
> > important, as will lining up the people willing to make
> > contributions to the website (articles, pictures, etc.).
> >
> > IMCs are entirely about volunteerism -- there are no
> > 'leaders', just people who are willing to do things.  Peops
> > who say they will do things and then do them, and manage to
> > function well in an environment of consensus
> > decision-making.  I'd punch "collective" "consensus" and
> > "workshop" "manual" or "handbook" into a search engine and
> > see what comes up, if not sure what this stuff is all about.
> >
> > Last, but not least, there have been some great ideas put
> > forward on the list already.  Like participating in the
> > Alberta Social Forum, etc..  Using this list to develop
> > those ideas and plan for things is what the list is intended
> > for.
> >
> > I know some of this will sound obvious to many of you, but I
> > think we all sometimes need to remind ourselves of the
> > obvious, no?
> >
> > All the very good things,
> > David Henry
> >
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