[Imc-alternatives] [imc-cms] [IMC-Tech] new cms discussion?
josef at uniteddiversity.com
Thu Jan 25 09:52:34 PST 2007
Whilst I don't want to discourage users and developers of samizdat, my
understanding (from reading through the wiki and archives etc) is that one
of the main reasons behind the whole imc-cms project was to decide on which
well established cms with large and very active developer community could
best be built on for Indymedia purposes.
I think Samizdat looks and sounds cool, but simply doesn't meet those needs.
I would argue that Drupal is very clearly the leader of the pack here. That
was true when the imc-cms project started. With the release of Drupal 5 even
And there is already quite a lot if work going on re Indy Drupal
Plone is also of interest, but hasn't reached the same level of penetration
or uptake due its added complication and being built on top of the bloated
zope web application framework.
Still, for group that have a lot of python/zope hackers in their midst it
would still be a good option.
And I now they great folks behind http://engagemedia.org are IndyPlone
enthusiasts. Not sure how else is though (couldn't find much info googling
for indyplone etc.)
Drupal 5 totally rocks though. Once all the modules are updated to be
compatible I think it will be standing head and shoulders above cms on
nearly all fronts.
On 25/01/07, boud <boud at riseup.net> wrote:
> hi lotu5,
> A systematic search for a new cms started on irc with some support
> on a mailing list. Please see:
> People have done a lot of work looking at different CMSes:
> The rough consensus plan was to finish the analyses in November and
> draw up a shortlist in December. It seems that because of the ahimsa
> and CCCP (san francisco/frenton) hosting problems, people got distracted
> and we haven't had time to get back to it.
> There are reports on 11 different CMSes and 3 different "frameworks" on
> at the moment.
> It would of course be useful for indymedia as a network if we could
> mostly choose just 2 or 3 of these (or maybe even just 1) for most of
> our development - that was the original idea of the CMS discussions.
> i suggest the sd imc people either help facilitate (revice) the imc cms
> group (the most active discussions were on irc + the wiki, not on
> the mailing list), or read what has been done and choose a cms without
> waiting for a more structured "unified" approach (whose timescale is
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Ben wrote:
> > From some casual searching:
> > http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-alternatives (listserv
> > with archives)
> > https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/IndymediaAlternatives (indymedia
> > docs)
> > The drupal portal is gaining a lot of popularity, to the point that some
> > imcs have already switched to a indy-friendly port of it. Examples:
> > Urbana-Champaign, Big Muddy.
> > lotu5 wrote:
> >> where is it taking place? how can imc's put their input in?
> >> sd imc is looking for a new software solution, but i think their
> >> concern is ease of use and ease of switching because they have few
> >> volunteers and very little time. i'm not trying to represent them, just
> At the risk of biasing the decision-making process (one person has
> already jumped in with drupal), here are some arguments for the short term
> and long term ease of using samizdat:
> * the code is small and compact - as of version 0.6.0, just 23 source code
> files written in an object-oriented language, ruby - total 4800 lines
> (plus config files, etc.)
> * samizdat is presently in debian unstable, the plan is to get it into
> For a comparison of samizdat with other cmses (including drupal), see:
> A demo site for samizdat should be available soon. Existing imc's on
> samizdat include http://belarus.indymedia.org and
> >> repeating some of what i understood from them. i'm sur eits more
> >> complex, but people feel like mir is too hard to use and tinker with.
> Personally i found samizdat quite easy to tinker with even without having
> learnt anything about the language ruby. It's modular and neat. After
> reading a few introductory pages on ruby and playing with the language,
> it has become even easier, of course. Probably the only difficult thing
> is getting used to an object-oriented language - i like the idea, and i
> think it's good, but it's a different approach to good ol' fortran 77.
> PS: spanish for samizdat is coming up shortly - this is probably fairly
> important for SD, i assume.
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