[Imc-alternatives] Fwd: [IMC-Tech] 10 theses - #4 Dream up Indymedia 2.0

[Sheri Herndon]

for our ongoing conversation :)


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> From: Micah Anderson <micah at riseup.net>
> Date: July 8, 2007 1:32:27 PM PDT
> To: Sheri Herndon <sheri at speakeasy.net>
> Cc: imc-research at lists.indymedia.org,  "IMC Tech <imc- 
> tech at indymedia.org>" <imc-tech at lists.indymedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [IMC-Tech] 10 theses - #4 Dream up Indymedia 2.0
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> Hi Sheri,
>
> Thanks for floating this along, I'm not on nettime, and I dont know if
> responding to Geert's statements is really appropriate to respond to
> there, so I will do it here.
>
>> 4. Dream up Indymedia 2.0. No more Wikipedia neutrality.
>
> My understanding was that people have been doing this already for  
> some time.
>
> But lets take a step back here... what *is* 2.0? We aren't talking  
> about
> version 2 of the software here, as Indymedia has gone through multiple
> versions and multiple different instantiations of software using
> multiple different programming languages. What is being referred to as
> 2.0 is the mythical Web 2.0 that is tossed around like a light  
> salad. So
>  this question becomes "Dream up Indymedia so it catches up with what
> the Web 2.0 bubble is doing" because what they are doing is SO  
> exciting
> and we are SO behind.
>
> Web 2.0 is: user-contributed content, citizen journalism, semantic  
> web,
> blogging, enabling individuals to create their own content (video,
> audio, text stories, etc.) -- what a minute, this sounds an awful like
> that drum beat that Indymedia has been sounding from 1999 onwards.
>
> Web 2.0 is finally catching up with Indymedia, as mat said, "Wasn't
> Indymedia ALWAYS web2.0?"
>
> This doesn't mean Indymedia doesn't need to reinvent itself, but lets
> get the perspective sorted out here. Indymedia is dreaming up ways to
> invent itself and has been for a while now... what is needed are  
> people
> who can help with this, rather than people outside of Indymedia  
> looking
> in smugly, and incorrectly identifying "the problem" and using the web
> 2.0 label without understanding where these ideas originally came  
> from.
>
>> Where are the social networking sites for activists?
>
> They are under development, I know of about 4 of them myself. Some of
> them exist and are in public beta, some are alpha and are moving  
> really
> fast...  Why do I know about these and not people who are looking in
> from the outside assessing?
>
> micah
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