[Imc-alternatives] leapfrogging drupal and plone: zope 3 collaboration

[Josef Davies-Coates]

Collaboration sounds like a very good idea.

Ryan: I've got a half-drafted long message in response to your excellent
long message about the state of techmeet/imc-cms activities (thanks for
that!).

The long and short of it is this: despite having rallied for drupal a while
back (because I believed that would be the quickest route to getting a
decent live imc-alternatives site up and running), inspired by your desire
to move forward to web 3.0 and to start being innovative again, I now want
to strongly encourage people in the zope 3 (style) direction.

Why?

Well, nothing else really comes close to z3's Component Based Architecture
(see e.g. http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/ComponentArchitectureApproach ) for
building complex systems.

One of the key benefits is the massively increased potential for code re-use
rather than everyone constantly re-inventing the wheel.

Another (major) reason is that lots of like minded people are headed in the
z3 direction:

   - http://www.the-hub.net and their international network of social
   innovator members - building a z3 platform to complement their network of
   hosted real world spaces.
   - http://green.tv who've just done their first fully z3 project for a
   client

Plus many of the key developers of:

   - http://plumi.org - also Andy is probably joining the OpenCoin
   http://opencoin.org team to work with my colleagues Tom and Joerg who
   work on The Hub's Hub+ platform (to be built in z3)
   - http://openplans.org
   - http://plone4artists.org

And also

   - MUST.tv - see http://musttv.wordpress.com, going to collaborating
   with http://green.tv and http://www.the-hub.net
   - http://www.neweconomics.org - I'm about to sign them up (and
   hopefully lots more similar organisations, e.g. Permaculture UK, Co-op
   UK) to the same development roadmap after they've asked us to build a social
   networking and learning platform for their
   http://www.local-alchemy.net/ project

I'm not a developer myself but I speak their lingo and spend too much time
with them. I'm pretty convinced that python is the way to go and out
performs php in many ways (what drupal and most other stuff is written in
for those that don't know) and ZODB (Zope's Object Database) does lots of
stuff you can't do with MySql)

There are good reasons why Google, YouTube, Amazon etc pay massive amounts
of cash to employ all the top python coders.

For some industry quotes and success stories see:
http://www.python.org/about/quotes/
http://www.python.org/about/success/

So, I propose the formation of a totally amazing international z3
development team to build the uber open source platform for change!

Who is up for it?

Smiles,

Josef.


On 16/11/2007, ryan <ryan at linefeed.org> wrote:
>
> > Over the past several weeks I've been lagging behind
> > on pestering everyone to keep this alternatives
> > project in the front part of the brain.
>
> Hi Jay,
>
> Is there a URL or something which explains this project you're
> talking about with PhillyIMC?
>
> Have you seen all the posts about the Techmeet initiative and what
> we're doing with that?
>
> Which software platform does the new PhillyIMC use? Are you interested
> in joining forces in some way?
>
> We've got a lot of momentum right now because we just spent 4 weeks
> discussing tech collaboration and the imc-cms project. So, I figured
> I'd reach out because it seems it would make sense to collaborate
> rather than drift in different directions. What do you think?
> -ryan
>
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