[Imc-alternatives] any forward motion?

Thu Feb 28 16:24:05 PST 2008

Thanks Jay, was wondering when you might chirp in. I passed along your
contact info to Dylan, our LPIMC tech, as requested, but learned recently
that he lost his phone. In case you don't yet have it, his email is
Dylan Nissley email: symbollocks at gmail dot comHe has experience with
drupal and phpcake--looked at some cake indymedia links I forwarded to him,
and was really impressed with what he saw, and said he would very likely
join with that cms effort once our imc website is up and running (in drupal
embedded with crabgrass, at least until this phpcake cms is rolled out, then
we'll migrate). I also recently got another local techie to join our
collective (well, he was there all along, but just needed a little push). He
was with John and myself during our trip to DC with the LPFM Lobby Day
grassroots endeavors with Prometheus Radio Project.

Also, while we are on the topic of Crabgrass, I strongly suggest
IMC-Alternatives members join. I will start up a group for IMC-Alt, so once
you get logged in request to join. This would be an important step as it
will allow those of us on this list not already using Crabgrass to utilize
and suggest features, which the tech collective truly appreciate. (On a side
note, I think Prometheus Radio Project will soon be joining Crabgrass as
they have some unique ideas for social organizing tools/features via
crabgrass.

https://we.riseup.net

Michaelv

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Jay <jay at fundamentalchange.net> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> So glad to hear from all of you!  I was fighting a tough deadline on
> a project this week and didn't get to my e-mail.  I was really
> excited to check in and see all this activity!
>
> I probably won't get a chance to wade through all the recent messages
> for a few days.  At that point I'll respond with any wisdom, or lack
> thereof.
>
> Two very quick updates:
> 1) Nick has started to work on a basic design for the site.  I
> haven't seen anything yet but we've talked about the structure of
> it.  (Michael from lancaster also suggested a logo which I haven't
> passed along to anyone yet. :)
>
> 2) When I skimmed some of the messages I noticed there was some talk
> about Crabgrass.  In some communication about a new IMC in Panama I
> reconnected with Brooke who is part of the Crabgrass project.  I
> mentioned Alternatives and our thoughts about reaching out to
> Crabgrass.  She's in Panama right now but gave me the phone number of
> someone else from the Crabgrass project and introduced us via
> e-mail.  I'll be happy to reach out and make that contact.
>
> That's it for now.  I'll catch up on the e-mails soon,
> Jay
>
>
> At 2/21/2008, you wrote:
> >Kia ora koutou
> >
> >I'm back with batteries recharged and share Jay's hopes that
> imc-alternatives
> >1.0 will hit the web in the near future. For now I'm happy to leave the
> >experienced geeks working through the imc-cms list to thrash out what
> sort of
> >software would be best to build our site on. I'd like to turn my
> attention to
> >the core business (excuse the yuk corporate speak ;) of an Indymedia site
> -
> >reporting news.
> >
> >Over the next few months I aim to pick up on a suggestion made last year
> -
> >writing the sorts of stories we want to feature on our proposed
> alternatives
> >site and posting them to Aotearoa Indymedia. Ideally once our site
> >goes live, I
> >would be able to continue doing this, and tag things when posting to
> >A-IMC to be
> >automatically added to the solutions-wire on the alternatives site.
> >
> >For this to work I need to get the A-IMC geeks to add a tag to our topic
> >categories. So I reckon now would be a good time to confirm a consensus
> on the
> >name of our project and our site, so they can add that name as the tag.
> Are we
> >happy with 'alternatives' or do people have other preferences? There is a
> list
> >of the various suggestions that came out of the last brainstorm on this
> at the
> >bottom of this page:
> >http://www.openplans.org/projects/imc-alternatives/the-website-vision
> >
> >If we don't have consensus on alternatives, what I suggest is we use that
> >polling tool we were using last year to set times for irc meetings.
> >Maybe we can
> >vote to narrow it down to a shortlist, then see if we can get consensus
> by
> >discussion from there?
> >
> >RnB
> >Strypes
> >
> >Jay wrote:
> > > Happy new year everyone!
> > >
> > > This year, 2008 for all you Gregorians out there, is going to be the
> > > year of the alternatives website's birth, I know it.  I'm currently
> > > pinning my hopes on the imc-cms decision to happen really soon (Cake
> > > is still the front-runner) and for the work around that project by
> > > indymedia techies to catapult our project forward.  All this is a
> > > matter for us to discuss on this list, of course, but I'm in the
> > > hope-pinning mood today.  Below is an update from the imc-cms process.
> > >
> > > At 12/31/2007, you wrote:
> > >>> I was just thinking of y'all.  Any forward motion toward the CMS
> > >> decision?
> > >>> There doesn't seem to be much action on the imc-cms list.  Do you
> think
> > >>> things will pick up again soon after new year's festivities?
> > >
> > >> From Ryan:
> > >
> > >> Yeah, there's good news on this front. There has been a TON of work
> > >> happening behind-the-scenes on the imc-cms project. I just sent an
> > >> update e-mail about everything that's been happening to the imc-cms
> > >> list. Check out these two e-mails:
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-cms/2007-December/1231-c8.html
> > >> [2]
> > http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-cms/2007-December/1228-i9.html
> > >>
> > >> So, we have an architecture design that would make us 100% secure
> > >> against server downtime, data loss and server seizures. While this
> has
> > >> been talked about for years, we now have actual software picked out
> > >> for all the different tiers and we even have the beginnings of code
> > >> prototypes.
> > >>
> > >> To illustrate how fast we can go on the front-end tier, Simon (who
> had
> > >> never used CakePHP before in his life) learned Cake and implemented
> > >> almost all the features of an IMC. It took him about 3-1/2 hours to
> do
> > >> by himself. You can see this prototype online at:
> > >> http://indy.anarcho.dk/
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Let's finally make this happen in 2008.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
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