[Imc-alternatives] NAMES: alternatives/solutions/change

[Sheri Herndon]

hi friends,

i want to first off express my gratitude to all those who have been diligently engaged on this project.  i have been following the 
conversations, just not able to jump in and lend my voice as i would like.  but it is present to me and connects with a number of 
projects i am engaged in.  i feel like this project is one of the most hopeful ones around.  

i don't think alternatives is the right word.  back in the 90's when we shifted from alternative media to independent media, it was more 
than just a different choice of word.  as jay names below, it begs the question, an alternative to what?  the quote at the bottom of my 
email is from buckminster fuller and it's about if you want to change things, create a new model that makes the old model obsolete.  so 
for me solutions works better for me.  this project is not about an alternative to anything.  it's about building a new model.  i also 
agree with josef that change doesn't capture it.  change for the good of all or the good of a few.  there's been plenty of change in the 
world and it hasn't always been good.  there's a value neutral in the word change.  i'd like us to make clear with the name, as a kind of 
shared intention we all engage in....fundamental change expresses that.  but still fundamental change toward what?  

for the good of all?

positive solutions?
change for good?

it may be enough to have fundamental change and there's a clarifying "by line" on the front page which clarifies the name, or solutions, 
and then a statement which expresses what motivates us to do this work...

global collective intelligence...global good, true beautiful.

we are in the time of the great turning, earth community, a maturing species which is waking up and the more swiftly the stories from a 
nexus like alt.indymedia can spread, the better.  

love
sheri

On Mon Jun 16  6:00 , "Josef Davies-Coates"  sent:

>I like solutions more than alternatives for the reasons Jay mentions below which echo what strypey says here: https://we.riseup.net/imc-
alt/official-domain-and-title+8890
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>I prefer Fundamental Change to Change. :)
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>Josef.
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>2008/6/3 Jay <jay at fundamentalchange.net>:
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>Hi,
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>The top three choices for our site's name are
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>Alternatives.indymedia.org, Solutions.indymedia.org and Change.indymedia.org.
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>I've been going back and forth between liking Alternatives and Solutions.
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>I like Alternatives because it's a general term to cover all the
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>kinds of information we're going to gather on the site --
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>alternatives to the current political/economic/social/health etc.
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>systems. Â Plus, it's comfortable because that's what we've been
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>calling ourselves forever.
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>I'm less than 100% enthusiastic about it because Alternatives begs
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>the question, "alternative to what?" which requires
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>explanation. Â Plus, Alternatives seems to marginalize the information
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>and also the people who are participating: do we want our ideas to
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>just be marginal outside ideas? Â Are we not confident they can one
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>day become mainstream?
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>I like Solutions because that gets at what a lot of us are trying to
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>do -- find solutions to the world's problms.
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>I'm not convinced by the name because calling our site Solutions
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>could infer that we're providing a list of things we believe are
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>definitive solutions to problems rather than exploring a lot of ideas
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>and options.
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>I don't think I like Change because "change" seems vague and could
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>mean so many things. Â My e-mail is from a domain I own called
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>"FundamentalChange.net" which I think of as being more specific to
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>the kind of change I work toward, but FundamentalChange is a real
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>mouthful for the name of anything.
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>So, I'm not sure.
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>Jay
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