[Imc-alternatives] NAMES: alternatives/solutions/change

[Josef Davies-Coates]

Yes, lets try to summarise the opinions that have already been expressed,
share them, and set-up a vote between alternatives and solutions, getting as
many people not on this list as possible to participate. Sounds like a good
plan to me :)

I just hope it results in a clear winner! :P

Josef.


2008/6/25 <lancaster-imc at riseup.net>:

> Yes, communications would be a good choice. I am on that list and so is
> Jay. Jay, do you want to put our naming situation to the communication's
> list for some outside input? Perhaps some other global lists as well?
> mV
>
>
> > i like the idea of inviting in other voices.  it's an inclusive move and
> > will give us a sense of the greater ecosystem
> > of indymedia...
> >
> > what about sending it to the imc-communication list?  or imc-research?
> > i'd love to hear some of their thoughts, even
> > if the list is all quiet, there are people who care very much about all
> of
> > this work and the next evolution of
> > indymedia, etc.
> >
> > it would also help to bring the larger community into our process.
> >
> > love
> > sheri
> >
> > On Tue Jun 24 16:45 , lancaster-imc at riseup.net sent:
> >
> >>Perhaps this question of either alternatives or solutions should be taken
> >>to a different list that can act as an arbitrator. As I can seen it, it
> >> is
> >>just about straight down the middle, which means we are at an impasse. I
> >>stand strong with my reasons for why alternatives makes sense as the
> >> name,
> >>but I am beginning to feel an outside survey might be an option at this
> >>point.
> >>
> >>mV
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2008/6/19 Sheri Herndon sheri at speakeasy.net>
> >>>>
> >>>> we also can change the name should the perfect name come to us later.
> >>>> like
> >>>> zaadz did with gaia...not that that's a perfect name either.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Zaadz got brought out by gaiam.com hence the name change.
> >>>
> >>> As for solutions sounding elitist/vanguardist I can see where you're
> >>> coming
> >>> from but I totally disagree.
> >>>
> >>> It annoys me when so many people who DO have knowledge about real
> >>> solutions
> >>> (I've seen their bookshelves) constantly say "I don't have all the
> >>> solutions" in an attempt to be open and inclusive (this, I believe, is
> >>> out
> >>> of our deepest fear, as Ghandi put "that we are powerful beyond
> >>> measure").
> >>>
> >>> Well, of course they don't have ALL the solutions; there are no one
> >>> solution
> >>> fits all but we DO have LOTS of solutions to current global problems
> >>> and
> >>> that is what I believe the site should be focussed on.
> >>>
> >>> We are not alternative. As David Korten says:
> >>>
> >>> "We are not representatives of an alternative fringe minority. We are
> >>> the
> >>> cutting edge of a national and global supermajority and it is
> >>> appropriate
> >>> for us to speak with a clear and confident voice"
> >>>
> >>> Some examples of solutions:
> >>>
> >>> Problem -> Solution
> >>> Corporate tyranny -> Co-operatives
> >>> Private Land Ownership -> Community Land Trusts
> >>> Debt-based monetary system -> Mutual credit systems
> >>> Microsoft monopoly -> Linux
> >>> Bankrupt farmers -> Community Supported Agriculture
> >>> GM Monoculture -> Organic farming
> >>> Oil dependency -> stop wasting so much energy and harness a mix of
> >>> renewables
> >>> etc. etc.
> >>>
> >>> You see, lots of very well established solutions DO exist.
> >>>
> >>> Surely our job is to share and spread them far and wide to inspire
> >>> radical
> >>> change?
> >>>
> >>> Worldchanging.com is right:
> >>>
> >>> "real solutions already exist for building the future we want. it's
> >>> just a
> >>> matter of grabbing hold and getting moving"
> >>>
> >>> Josef.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Josef Davies-Coates
> >>> 07974 88 88 95
> >>> http://uniteddiversity.com
> >>> Together We Have Everything
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