[Imc-alternatives] okay, what do we have to do to get this to happen?

nick at artclash.com nick at artclash.com
Fri Oct 10 15:02:03 PDT 2008


Hi Jay,

I haven't been able to go through all your emails, but if someone  
implements the features we are looking at into a drupal or other cms,  
I can probably apply my designs pretty quickly by modifying the css  
of the template system. I think it's important that it look somewhat  
slick and I don't think we need to really think of that aspect as a  
huge obstacle. Even though, as a more long term goal, we'll want to  
refine and make it better and better.

nick

On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Jay wrote:

> Hi Robbt, Dave and all,
>
> Thanks for the replies.  I didn't mean to sound impatient and
> alarmist in my last e-mail...!  (oh, wait.  I did.)
>
>> I can i have a plone site up tomorrow.
>> Drupal folk i can do that too.
>> Having the sites up may kick people into gear to work on them..
>> Dave
>
> Here is my thought.  I would love to see the alternatives project be
> 100% committed to building an extraordinary web site that fits
> completely into the overall renewed Indymedia network
> architecture.  That means going with the CakePHP/Joomla proposal
> that's being discussed over at imc-cms...but, in the meantime -- and
> this may be a matter of weeks, or a few months, until the new
> Indymedia tech vision has been realized -- I suggest we get something
> up and running in Drupal, a la Dave's "can get the site up in a day"
> suggestion above, and Robbt's "core with no modules/blog-like"
> suggestion below.  We could apply as much of Nick's design as
> possible, focus on the news-gathering aspect and really just have
> something to start the buzz going.
>
> It may look crummy.  It will be clunky.  But it could give us a place
> to start consolidating content, and a bit of an energy boost as well.
>
> Imc-cms techs, having a temporary drupal site for the alternatives
> project to work on will also get me off your backs for a while.
> Meaning, I personally won't feel the need to push, prod and pester
> you, leaving techies to build the new indy infrastructure in
> virtually Jay-free zone.  :)))
>
> Seriously, I want to re-confirm that what I'm proposing is a
> temporary Drupal site that will get the ball rolling, while we're
> still simulaneously working together on creating a real site that
> works completely within the new Indymedia architecture.  I'd started
> learning Drupal so I could stop being one of those annoying "techies
> -- build this!" people and start to actually contribute, but now I'm 
> considering trying to learn Joomla too, or instead, to mesh with
> imc-tech's efforts.  So, this is not an "either/or" proposal, just
> something that will get us from point A to point B.
>
> Reactions?
> Jay
> (p.s. writing a response to taxonomy questions in a different e-mail)
>
>
> At 10/10/2008, you wrote:
>> I can help with a Drupal site, my energy is already divided between a
>> lot of projects so I haven't really stepped up on this one, but it
>> shouldn't be hard to get something up and running. The biggest  
>> problem
>> has been a lack of agreement on how to do it and vision, from what  
>> I've
>> seen from the sidelines. Anyways, the real tricky part is  
>> coordinating
>> such stuff simply over the web. I think Drupal might be the  
>> easiest for
>> the most people to be able to play with but we should just do a  
>> simple
>> 6.0 core site with no modules and just try to do it similar to a  
>> blog to
>> give the content producers a place to start writing and develop  
>> anything
>> further off when/if it becomes a hit.
>>
>> In order to do this we simply would need a few parameters outlined.
>> Create a taxonomy/categories for content.
>>
>>  From my understanding the site would consist of alternatives to
>> capitalism, focusing on diy and alternative economics, and whatever
>> else. I'd be done and have tried to start similar sites in the  
>> past, but
>> I think the Indymedia network would be an optimal place for this  
>> to launch.
>>
>> Sample Categories: (no need to prefix with alternative before each  
>> since
>> that is implicit)
>>
>> Transportation
>> Food
>> Health
>> Culture
>> Economics
>> Politics
>>
>>
>> Then for content types we could just start out with articles and let
>> people write.
>>
>> If this is going to be open publishing we will need to implement
>> something along the lines of peer moderation etc, but it could be  
>> done
>> by a few moderators at first.
>>
>> Captcha would probably also be essential for preventing spambots from
>> taking it over.
>>
>> I'll help with it when I can, your write Jay let's get this site up,
>> even if it isn't perfect.
>>
>> Robbt
>>
>> Dave Fregon wrote:
>>> I can i have a plone site up tomorrow.
>>> Drupal folk i can do that too.
>>> Having the sites up may kick people into gear to work on them..
>>> Dave
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