[Imc-alternatives] okay, what do we have to do to get this to happen?

[Jay]

Nick and all,

At 10/10/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Jay,
>
>I haven't been able to go through all your emails, but if someone
>implements the features we are looking at into a drupal or other cms,
>I can probably apply my designs pretty quickly by modifying the css
>of the template system. I think it's important that it look somewhat
>slick and I don't think we need to really think of that aspect as a
>huge obstacle. Even though, as a more long term goal, we'll want to
>refine and make it better and better.
>
>nick

Excellent.  Absolutely yes, I think we should make whatever we have 
look good, even if it's just something simple in Drupal to take us 
from now until the point at which the more ambitious IMC code scheme 
comes together.  The world has tilted on its axis in a way that we 
should get a site up a.s.a.p. so we can finally start to gather 
content and present some really inspiring information.  Having 
something with a straightforward backend that also looks great would 
be an amazing leap forward.

Dave, when you said you could get something basic up in a day, was 
that just irrational exuberance (hee hee!) or do you think you may be 
able to throw something together?  (I know you work more in Plone but 
my personal sense is that Drupal has less of a learning curve and 
would be better for our currnet purposes.)

Jay


>On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Jay wrote:
>
> > Hi Robbt, Dave and all,
> >
> > Thanks for the replies.  I didn't mean to sound impatient and
> > alarmist in my last e-mail...!  (oh, wait.  I did.)
> >
> >> I can i have a plone site up tomorrow.
> >> Drupal folk i can do that too.
> >> Having the sites up may kick people into gear to work on them..
> >> Dave
> >
> > Here is my thought.  I would love to see the alternatives project be
> > 100% committed to building an extraordinary web site that fits
> > completely into the overall renewed Indymedia network
> > architecture.  That means going with the CakePHP/Joomla proposal
> > that's being discussed over at imc-cms...but, in the meantime -- and
> > this may be a matter of weeks, or a few months, until the new
> > Indymedia tech vision has been realized -- I suggest we get something
> > up and running in Drupal, a la Dave's "can get the site up in a day"
> > suggestion above, and Robbt's "core with no modules/blog-like"
> > suggestion below.  We could apply as much of Nick's design as
> > possible, focus on the news-gathering aspect and really just have
> > something to start the buzz going.
> >
> > It may look crummy.  It will be clunky.  But it could give us a place
> > to start consolidating content, and a bit of an energy boost as well.
> >
> > Imc-cms techs, having a temporary drupal site for the alternatives
> > project to work on will also get me off your backs for a while.
> > Meaning, I personally won't feel the need to push, prod and pester
> > you, leaving techies to build the new indy infrastructure in
> > virtually Jay-free zone.  :)))
> >
> > Seriously, I want to re-confirm that what I'm proposing is a
> > temporary Drupal site that will get the ball rolling, while we're
> > still simulaneously working together on creating a real site that
> > works completely within the new Indymedia architecture.  I'd started
> > learning Drupal so I could stop being one of those annoying "techies
> > -- build this!" people and start to actually contribute, but now I'm
> > considering trying to learn Joomla too, or instead, to mesh with
> > imc-tech's efforts.  So, this is not an "either/or" proposal, just
> > something that will get us from point A to point B.
> >
> > Reactions?
> > Jay
> > (p.s. writing a response to taxonomy questions in a different e-mail)
> >
> >
> > At 10/10/2008, you wrote:
> >> I can help with a Drupal site, my energy is already divided between a
> >> lot of projects so I haven't really stepped up on this one, but it
> >> shouldn't be hard to get something up and running. The biggest
> >> problem
> >> has been a lack of agreement on how to do it and vision, from what
> >> I've
> >> seen from the sidelines. Anyways, the real tricky part is
> >> coordinating
> >> such stuff simply over the web. I think Drupal might be the
> >> easiest for
> >> the most people to be able to play with but we should just do a
> >> simple
> >> 6.0 core site with no modules and just try to do it similar to a
> >> blog to
> >> give the content producers a place to start writing and develop
> >> anything
> >> further off when/if it becomes a hit.
> >>
> >> In order to do this we simply would need a few parameters outlined.
> >> Create a taxonomy/categories for content.
> >>
> >>  From my understanding the site would consist of alternatives to
> >> capitalism, focusing on diy and alternative economics, and whatever
> >> else. I'd be done and have tried to start similar sites in the
> >> past, but
> >> I think the Indymedia network would be an optimal place for this
> >> to launch.
> >>
> >> Sample Categories: (no need to prefix with alternative before each
> >> since
> >> that is implicit)
> >>
> >> Transportation
> >> Food
> >> Health
> >> Culture
> >> Economics
> >> Politics
> >>
> >>
> >> Then for content types we could just start out with articles and let
> >> people write.
> >>
> >> If this is going to be open publishing we will need to implement
> >> something along the lines of peer moderation etc, but it could be
> >> done
> >> by a few moderators at first.
> >>
> >> Captcha would probably also be essential for preventing spambots from
> >> taking it over.
> >>
> >> I'll help with it when I can, your write Jay let's get this site up,
> >> even if it isn't perfect.
> >>
> >> Robbt
> >>
> >> Dave Fregon wrote:
> >>> I can i have a plone site up tomorrow.
> >>> Drupal folk i can do that too.
> >>> Having the sites up may kick people into gear to work on them..
> >>> Dave
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