[Imc-alternatives] Fwd: Where is ZCom going?
Jay
jay at fundamentalchange.net
Wed May 20 22:02:39 PDT 2009
At 5/11/2009, you wrote:
>Interesting, thanks.
>
>Sounds like they are trying to make their own
>version of iGoogle/ Netvibes/ Pakeflakes.
>
>A brief update on similar developments in my
>world is that after trying plone for a while
><http://the-hub.net>http://the-hub.net have now
>opted to implement social network type stuff
>using
><http://pinaxproject.com/>http://pinaxproject.com/
>and are largely focusing ongiving users the
>power of feeds (finding and filtering them) a
>bit like friendfeed/ facebook homepage/ twitter
>
>Josef.
Thanks for the update Josef!
I'm looking around the hub. I love the fact that
there are so many smiley pictures of people. I
love smiley pictures of people. :)
Jay
>2009/3/5 Jay <<mailto:jay at fundamentalchange.net>jay at fundamentalchange.net>
>Hi alternatives,
>
>ZCommunications, the online world of Z Magazine,
>is undergoing some serious updating and just
>sent out an overview. They've clearly been
>having a lot of the same discussions we have
>about how to create an engaging site that will
>enable people to connect with one
>another. Check out their ideas, which I'll
>post below. Specifically look at #9.
>
>I've always found Z online an incredible
>resource, though I admit the vastness of
>information on there overwhelms me to the point
>of my not being able to figure out how to
>engage. I see the Alternatives IMC as having
>more of a focus on our particular kind of
>information and organizing and therefore serious
>potential to connect people with very common and
>specific organizing interests. Still, I
>definitely see how the Alternatives IMC could
>fit with parts of ZCommunications, and how what
>ZCom is doing could overlap with the Alternatives IMC.Â
>
>Jay
>
>
>
>>Subject: Where is ZCom going?
>>Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:00:27 -0700 (MST)
>>Â Hello,
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Roughly a year ago we did our upgrade of Z's
>>sites transforming them into what has become ZCommunications.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>At the time, we promised that the improvements
>>would include not only a new look, improved
>>navigation, enlarged and enhanced multimedia,
>>the new ZSpace, etc. - but also a new platform
>>for future growth and diversification.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The programmers doing all this work, are a team
>>from Brazil - the main contact is Marcelo
>>Ribeiro. They and we have largely stabilized
>>the upgrade to ZCommunications, so it is now
>>time to begin to together fulfill the broader
>>promise about further gains based on the new platform.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Here is a glimpse of some of what's coming for
>>Members, Sustainers, and Writers.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(1) Minor changes throughout.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>There will be modest changes everywhere, including, for example:
>>
>>increased stability and speed
>>new most viewed statistics and preferences
>>PDF exporting
>>enhanced and faster searches
>>diverse design improvements
>>better display of content descriptions
>>better display of author's pictures,Â
>>better audio and video playersÂ
>>playlists, and
>>other modest tweaks throughout.
>>Okay, that's some of the modest stuff. But what about major stuff?
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(2) Personal ZNet Top Page Content Control
>>
>>Â
>>
>>As now, there will continue to be a universal
>>ZNet Top Page that everyone who comes to the
>>site initially sees as the default.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>As a Sustainer or Writer, however, you will
>>have the option to create your own version of
>>the top page to view instead, whenever you
>>choose, toggling between visiting your version
>>or the universal version, as you decide.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Your personal ZNet top page will have whatever
>>content you choose to give it. You will be in charge!
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You will be able to Quick Edit the content
>>boxes that you now see in the middle and right
>>most columns of the universal ZNet Top Page -
>>not only changing the labels they have, but
>>also changing the actual automated list of
>>links controlling how many links appear and the
>>criteria that defines them to be pretty much anything you want.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You don't want a box with Venezuela/Bolivia
>>content, like we now have on the top page. Fine. Easily remove it.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want a box that displays recent content
>>about Spain or perhaps about both South Africa
>>and Mexico instead. Fine, easily add it. You
>>name the display area box, you set it up to
>>display what you want, and you drag it where you want.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want a box that has only your favorite
>>writers' new content displayed. No problem. You
>>want a box to display new material from a bunch
>>of writers you like? Also no problem. You want
>>everything new on Gender issues to appear in a
>>box, or perhaps everything new on genders
>>issues but only if it is by some author or
>>authors you like, that's also no problem.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want a display box on your personal top
>>page with web links outside ZCom that you like
>>to go to and want handy? Fine. Do it, easily.
>>You can have whatever content you want.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>In other words, you will be able to set up
>>display boxes for list of links on your
>>personal top page of ZNet, much as we have on
>>the universal version, but with automated
>>display of links to whatever content you want
>>to highlight - of course also removing whatever
>>you don't care to have forefront. And you can
>>then change what you have done, with changing
>>times, also easily, whenever you like.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(3) Personal ZNet Top Page Tabbed Menu System
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Being able to control the content on the top
>>page is awfully nice, you might say, I mean
>>even big commercial sites don't have that
>>option, but what about the menus? You might
>>say, after all, Z's universal taste in menu
>>links and your personal taste don't match?
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Well, that too will be no problem.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>In the tabbed menu at the top of the universal
>>default ZNet top page that everyone can see the
>>tabs will continue to be whatever we at Z
>>decide to make them, and likewise for the
>>submenus that appear when you roll over a tab
>>on the universal top page. But on your own
>>personal ZNet top page, the one where you set
>>what content displays, the one that is yours
>>and that only you see, you will be able to
>>easily remove or add top menu tabs of your
>>choosing, as well as remove or add sub links
>>under those tabs, again of your own choosing.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want fewer tabs, no problem. Remove what you don't like.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want more tabs, okay, you can add what you want.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want different labels on the tabs, change them, easily.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You want existing or new tabs that point to
>>different destinations - even outside the site - no problem, you choose.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You will determine where your menu entries
>>point - anywhere at all, whether on site or
>>off. And the same will hold for entries in the
>>submenus that you see when you roll over a tab
>>on your top page - you will be able to adapt
>>and add and delete them, too, all via easy quick edit.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You might want to have a friends tab, say, with
>>the submenu displaying links to your friends
>>pages. Maybe you want a SiteLinks tab for off
>>site links that you like. Perhaps you want a
>>MyContent tab with links to different types of
>>your own content. Maybe you want some countries
>>to front and center under a places tab, but
>>different countries than we have on the
>>universal page - or you might want some topics
>>under a topics tab, but again different ones
>>than we have. Maybe you want some favorite
>>writers, under a writers tab, or under a blog
>>tab, or whatever. You can have tabs for
>>whatever you want to have easiest access too,
>>with whatever sub menu links you want.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(4) Personal ZNet Top Page Left Menu System
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Okay, you might say, that's wonderful, and
>>unexpected, but as long as we are innovating, what about the left menu?
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You like the fact that from the top page you
>>can click an arrow on the left menu and
>>instantly set whole sets of recent content by
>>various designations. But the content you would
>>like to instantly access that way is different
>>from our universal entries. Well, you guessed
>>it, the same logic and approach will hold for
>>the left menu as will hold for the tab menu.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>On the universal znet top page, the left menu
>>will be rather like it is now with the links
>>and sections that we pick visible to everyone who accesses it.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>On your own personal version of the top page,
>>however, the one where you determine the
>>content and you determine the tabbed menu
>>entries, the one that you can access whenever
>>you want, on the left menu too you can put
>>whatever links you want. The names listed will
>>be those you choose, or no names if you don't
>>want any. you might choose to have some
>>writers, friends, whatever. And ditto for the
>>rest. You can pick different categories of
>>content to quick access, countries, or topics,
>>or combinations. The arrows will work like now,
>>but the names of the links and what actually displays will be up to you.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The upshot of all this is that your personal
>>ZNet Top Page will have broadly the same
>>structure as the current universal ZNet top
>>page, but it will have whatever content and
>>menu links suit your content preferences and
>>navigational inclinations. We will provide a
>>few typical sample options for personal top
>>pages and you can choose one that is close to
>>what you might like, and then you can tweak it,
>>or massively alter it, as you choose.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>One thing to note, however, again, is that only
>>you will see your presonal ZNet top page. It is
>>what will appear going to ZNet when you are
>>logged in and you opt to toggle it on.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(5) Personal ZSpace Top Page
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The logic of the overall ZSpace top page will
>>be the same as above. There will be a universal
>>one, like now, though much improved in ways
>>that will be intimated below. But then you as a
>>Sustainer will be able to edit what appears on
>>a personal compendium ZSpace top page that you
>>can see instead of or in addition to our
>>version, if you opt for having a personal one, and if you toggle it on.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>For your personal ZSpace top page, you will
>>choose the content and its arrangement, whether
>>you want comments or blogs or preferences or
>>pictures or your friends contents, etc. etc.,
>>and the menu links, and their arrangement, all
>>technically just as described above for the
>>ZNet Top Page. There will however, be, more
>>things to display and highlight than now, due to other innovations.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>In other words, you will have not only our idea
>>of a universal window on all accumulating
>>ZSpace content - but also your version of what
>>that should look like and include, as you
>>decide, and alter, at your discretion.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(6) Personal ZSpace Page
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Of course you will still have your own ZSpace
>>page, which you set up but everyone sees when
>>they click on your name, like now, but now it
>>will be virtually entirely adaptable however
>>you choose, with content that you want, links that you want, etc.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>What's more, there will be a massively improved
>>ties to your online friends, providing ease of
>>use and speed of response on the order of
>>FaceBook's, with message boards and records,
>>etc. etc., and overall with far more substance, of course.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(7) New Forums / Chat / Messaging
>>
>>Â
>>
>>We are redoing the forums, chat, and messaging
>>so that they will be entirely integrated in the
>>overall system - rather than standing off to
>>the side - and so that they will also have
>>options to receive content by email, for you to
>>reply by email, and for you to display your or
>>your friends or any other posts and threads on
>>your personal pages as you choose, among other innovations.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Links to related forums will appear in
>>appropriate places all over the site, not just
>>when you go to a sequestered forums area, as
>>will access to forum content. Comments will be
>>commenting on any content and forums will be
>>for extended discussions, debates, etc.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Sustainers will also be able to create their
>>own forums for display on your pages - as will
>>groups - the last being a very important feature.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Similarly we will have live chat and also
>>instant message facilities, far more developed
>>than we employed earlier, with easy use from
>>anywhere... perhaps sound and vision, and with
>>rooms for multiple people, with reminders,
>>tracking visibility of online friends, etc.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(8) Preferences
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The books, films, and sites preferences
>>facilities are being redone and will generate
>>lists of people's preferred content by the last
>>day, week, month, and for all time.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>There will also be easy reviewing of content,
>>easy access to comments and reviews, easy
>>access to see who has tastes like yours, etc.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(9) Groups / Projects / Networks / Organizations / Movements
>>
>>Â
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>>There will be lots more innovation, but this
>>last one that I can summarize now is the one I
>>have to admit, that I are most excited about.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The idea is pretty simple - but the potential is enormous.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Say you and a group of other people decide to
>>form a collective page - just for a group of
>>like minded folks, or perhaps for folks who
>>wish to work together on some shared project,
>>or maybe for folks who wish to join together
>>into a network, or perhaps for members of an
>>organization, or even for members of a movement.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>You create a group page, or you might call it a
>>network page, for your collective of people.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>All the members of the group and only those
>>members can post in the group blog. All the
>>members of the group and only members of the
>>group can operate in the group's forums. The
>>groups can decide to allow people outside the
>>group to see its blogs or forums, or not.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>There is easy email to and from everyone in the
>>group to everyone else in the group, likewise for chat and messaging.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>The group can have its own top page for the
>>group (using options technically just like the
>>group's personal control of the znet top page
>>to create this) - not just a self determined
>>group ZSpace page, as now, but a page like the
>>ZNet top page, but for the group, that everyone
>>can see or not, as the group decides.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>In other words the group, project, team,
>>organization - or whatever it is - gets the
>>ability to very easily set up a web site with a
>>tabbed menu system, a fancy left menu facility,
>>and with easy quick edit control of all content
>>and features - including colors, graphics,
>>etc., and with chat, messaging, forums, and blog.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>In short, we will be providing any group that
>>wants it, a site that if warranted can be as
>>rich as ZCommunications to do with what they
>>will. More, the content will not only stand
>>alone, as it would if you built such a thing
>>from scratch - but it will also appear within
>>the Z system, thus getting major added visibility, etc.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Your team/group/organization or whatever will
>>have chat and instant messenger to facilitate
>>intercommunication internally, but, as well, to
>>aid collective creativity we will even have
>>ways for you to collectively work on shared
>>documents and projects. Communication among
>>folks in your team/group/organization will be
>>easy. Adding folks will be easy. Embedding
>>content into your sites will be easy, and being
>>embedded in others systems or creating amalgam systems, will be easy.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>We hope you can see the potential.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Just as an example, suppose UFPJ decided to use
>>this, or perhaps some left publisher, or maybe
>>a consortium of publishers on the left, or
>>perhaps a new organization, or maybe a group
>>just wanting to create a new site, or a
>>translated site, say - or whatever. They could
>>have a site for each chapter plus a parent site
>>for all chapters, or one for each of many
>>organizations and a shared consortium site for
>>all together, among many other possibilities,
>>virtually overnight. Each would have a rich and
>>flexible menuing system, easy maintenance, and
>>would feature content of its members, blogs for
>>its members, forums for its members - all
>>visible more broadly or not, as preferred, etc.
>>Each would facilitate discussion, exploration,
>>debate, and even mutual work among the members,
>>if desired, and would of course allow content
>>display more widely and particularly to the
>>larger Z community, if desired. We hope we can
>>all together bring this type mutual aid and
>>benefit to fruition. We hope movement groups
>>and organizations, publishers, projects, teams
>>of like minded folks, etc., will use the
>>resources. It is an ambitious undertaking, but
>>hopefully will come to pass just a little after
>>all the rest that is mentioned above.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>So when will all this be in place?
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Well, we don't know precise timing and we have
>>learned that programming is very very hard and
>>unpredictable. You do it. you discover
>>problems. You fix them, but then there are new
>>ones to fix. You keep at it - and finally you
>>have something viable that you can unveil, only
>>to find more - though less debilitating problems to fix.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>We hope to have these innovations ready to
>>unveil in early to mid summer. We hope to have
>>what is described above all finished, by late
>>summer or early fall - and to be off and
>>running on adding much more innovation, as well.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Â
>>
>>If you want to help us in all this - well, there are three big things to do.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(1) Use the current facilities - which is to
>>say please upload your picture and bio to
>>ZSpace, please enter some preferences, and
>>especially please begin using the blogs and
>>commenting facilities if you haven't already.
>>They have gotten quite busy, which is quite
>>inspiring, but there is room for much more! In
>>this way you can not only grow participation
>>now, preparatory to a big jump when the new
>>features are in place, but, truth be told, you
>>can provide us the inspiration we need to keep on pushing forward.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(2) We know economic times are very tough, or
>>at the very least, very scary. But,
>>nonetheless, if, but only if, you can possibly
>>manage it, please consider upping your
>>Sustainer Donation by one payment level, or by
>>whatever amount you can manage. Even just $1 a
>>month, say, will make a very big difference!
>>
>>Â
>>
>>(3) But most important, if and when you decide
>>to begin tightening up your budget - please
>>don't do it at the expense of your support for
>>ZCom, or at the expense of your support for
>>other progressive and left endeavors, for that
>>matter. It would be an incredible irony and
>>catch-22 - if, precisely when the corporate
>>system implodes the anti corporate alternative
>>should suffer also, rather than growing, as we need to.
>>
>>Â
>>
>>We hope you agree that the above is an exciting set of prospects...
>>
>>Â
>>
>>We thank you for your continuing support,
>>
>>Â
>>
>>Michael Albert
>>
>>For ZCom
>>
>><http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/removeMailing/?account=NTgzNjQyczBubjR5>Temporarily
>>toggle off commentary and other Sustainer mailings.
>>
>>(You can turn them back on from your account
>>page at any time. You will not lose permissions
>>or other Sustainer benefits nor will this interrupt your donations.)
>>
>><http://www.zcommunications.org/admin/account/terminate/583642>Terminate
>>your Sustainer Account
>>
>>(You will have to enter your password in the
>>form that appears. Doing this will terminate
>>your donations and permissions. To get new
>>permissions and other features, you would have to rejoin later.)
>>
>><http://www.zcommunications.org/admin/account/view/583642>Visit
>>your account page and make changes of any sort you may desire.
>>
>>(You will have to enter your password in the field that appears.)
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