[imc-auckland-video] 9/11
Kim Mazur
greenmps.auckland at greens.org.nz
Mon Aug 16 14:20:56 PDT 2004
HI, no it's not a long way down the track. 9/11 is just around the
corner. Although it's a good idea, we have already pre-booked regular
film screenings every OTHER month, so the next scheduled screening isn't
until Sunday October 17th. And it's quite draining physically and
resources/time wise to organise one right on the back of the heels of
just finishing one. Esp. without a lot of lead-in time. Both Chloe and
myself will be overseas the first two weeks of Sept, so wouldn’t be able
to help - but go for it, even if you have a little video screening at
your own home with friends or at a uni lecture theatre that has all the
projector equipment already installed in the room. What about that film
the Fourth War that Gerladene has posted a listing about? Kim
PS. I think Global Peace & Justice are planing something bigger for 9/11
www.gpja/pl.net.
-----Original Message-----
From: imc-auckland-video-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
[mailto:imc-auckland-video-bounces at lists.indymedia.org] On Behalf Of
mandy.scott at paradise.net.nz
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 8:41 AM
To: Auckland Indymedia video list
Subject: RE: [imc-auckland-video] 9/11
Hi Kathryn,
Hope you are well. Your post got me thinking, I know it's a long way
down
the track but how about the Anti-dote doing something special for 9/11?
We could do a huge thing about the "other 9/11" and screen a doco about
Salvadore Allende, and other acts of terror in Latin America perpetrated
by
the US?
Some feedback I get from younger people is that these things seem "so
historical", but we could do a Michael Moore with some of the material.
Sort of a US "greatest hits" kind of thing
I didn't particularly like Fahrenhiet, but I think the tabloidisation of
"our"
viewpoint can have its place. I realise the idea of reducing different
countries and histories and peoples in such a way may be an anathema
to an expert in the field, but what do you think?
Quoting "Kathryn Lehman (FOA SELL)" <k.lehman at auckland.ac.nz>:
> It is interesting to read this thread from Argentina, where former
> President Carlos Menem has been a smiling sporty popular-populist fun
> guy who made
> people like him for more than a decade. He enriched himself and
> impoverished
> the country by following IMF mandates and sending this nation´s
capital
> out
> through Bank Boston and Banco Galicia which put 50% of the people
under
> the
> poverty line, he is also accused (Argentine Congress report) of
> supervising narcotrafficking and arms dealing along with murder in at
> least one case; he
> is now in Chile facing extradition for myriad charges. There is still
a
> substantial portion of the population who genuinely like Menem and
would
> put
> him back in power because his TV image allows him to appear so
> authentic. This level of criminal activity doesn´t happen without
> genuinely friendly
> guys smiling for the camera.
> Kathryn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Mazur
> To: 'Auckland Indymedia video list'
> Sent: 13/08/2004 03:11 p.m.
> Subject: RE: [imc-auckland-video] Banks thread
>
> HI Mandy, yes, the banks/bush analogy isn't too far off
>
> How did you get on with the leaflets I dropped off?
>
> Also, are you free Sun 22nd Aug at 4pm for a meeting about the doco at
> my house?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: imc-auckland-video-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> [mailto:imc-auckland-vid eo-bounces at lists.indymedia.org] On Behalf Of
> mandy.scott at paradise.net.nz
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:33 PM
> To: Auckland Indymedia video list
> Subject: RE: [imc-auckland-video] Banks thread
>
>
> My friend works at the parliamentary library, she was expecting
> Winston Peters to make her skin crawl, instead she found him so
> charming she found herself actually blushing. (shy wee librarians, ya
> know!) And I'm also thinking of that semi-leftie who made the doco
> about Bush's campaign trail, he seemed warm, funny and human.
>
> Just because someone has charisma, doesn't stop them from being
lying,
> fascist, bastards. Take Banksie down!
>
> But no, you are right, a subtle and complex analysis is probably the
> way to go, just remember he has pissed off a lot of his natural
> constituency
> around Tamaki.
>
>
>
> Quoting "Chloe Heffernan (FOA POL)" <c.heffernan at auckland.ac.nz>:
>
> > I agree with what Kim said - you really feel unsure about how much
> > of
>
> > the act is put on and how much is honestly John Banks the man.
> >
> > I also got the impression that he didn't know what to make of us:
> > naive youngsters, earnest objective journalists, Fletcher lackies,
> > malluable media wannabies...so his style chopped and changed a lot
> > over the interview.
> >
> > I think he often puts across a coherent, right wing view point,
> > which
>
> > I don't agree with (as I don't agree with his assumptions) but I
> think
>
> > is valid on its own terms.
> >
> > At other times I think his arguments are riddled with internal
> > contradictions - as is typical of populism. Here I think we can show
> > him hanging himself.
> >
> > Rather than demonise his politics or the man (who is a charmer if
> ever
>
> > there was one) - which is easy if you don't hold his assumptions
> about
>
> > the world,
> > I think we should investigate why his style of politics are so
> > successful - favourable media, populist language, his consituency
> > vote, the left splitting its vote, the electoral system, his
> > financial backing, his professional campaign
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: imc-auckland-video-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> > [mailto:imc-auckland-vid eo-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf
Of
> > Kim Mazur
> > Sent: Friday, 13 August 2004 1:27 p.m.
> > To: 'Auckland Indymedia video list'
> > Subject: RE: [imc-auckland-video] Banks thread
> >
> >
> > Well, after yesterday's interview with him I'm left scratching my
> head
>
> > at the enigma that IS John Banks - he is bombastic but also
> > sickeningly positive -- his confidence and positivity leaves you
> > stunned and makes him momentarily likeable -- you got to admire
> > someone like that in a strange sort of way. He's a shocker - but a
> > fascinating character. He speaks in soundbites, is repetitive,
> evasive
>
> > sometimes, and plays on this "I'm just an uneducated man" image
and
> > loves to be simplistic. It seemed genuine, and that's the scary
> thing.
>
> > I wish I knew how much was an act! This mayoral "race" is making for
> > great drama and humour though. I don't know if I want ANY of them to
> > be mayor.
> >
> > I say, watch the interview we did with him. I only wish our doco was
> > more than 25 mins. to include ALL the fascinating stuff people have
> > been saying on camera. I haven't read those NZ Music postings yet
but
>
> > I can say that perhaps none of those people have met the guy or sat
> > down with him, so they might be even more qualified to say all that
> > stuff they are
> > if they actually did so. I'm not interested in painting him, or
> anyone
> > in the doco all black. And if we did that, would we have to also be
> > hard-hitting on the other candidates, which we weren't. We asked
John
> > harder and more critical questions than we did Chris for instance.
> > It was an intimidating and enjoyable interview on both sides of the
> > camp
> I
> > think. What I find fascinating is that life isn't black and white
> > and as Tomachi's music from our last News media doco says "so many
shades of
> > gray" and I hope that shows through in the doco. I'm not keen to
> > send any one up, but of course, if they hang themselves, that's
> > another thing...
> >
> > Chloe, your take on it all?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: imc-auckland-video-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> > [mailto:imc-auckland-vid eo-bounces at lists.indymedia.org] On Behalf
Of
>
> > Geraldene Peters
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:58 PM
> > To: imc-auckland-video at lists.indymedia.org
> > Subject: [imc-auckland-video] Banks thread
> >
> >
> > Hey all,
> > Thought some might be interested in this. I'm not into some of the
> > hard-core language, physical attribute assasinations, and 'venting'
> > posts, but there's interesting detail amongst the blather. Everyone
> has
> > anecdotes about JB it seems. It would be very easy for the
> documentary
> > to paint JB black - does the doco want to opt for dark grey, or
> > striations of grey. Something to think about for the meeting.
> > Cheers,
> G
> >
> >
> > http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?i=9436&start=1
> >
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