[Imc-be] [Fwd: RE: [Imc-belgium-process] turlututu in imc-process]

turlututu turlututu at indymedia.org
Wed Sep 8 15:27:15 PDT 2004


Hey Dagny,
If you didn't notice, the proposal to use the url 
"belgium.indymedia.org" didn't changed since the first proposal. The 6 
local collectives are clear on that since months. We think 6 collectives 
have more right to use that url than only one who is mainly based at 
Brussels. It seems even logical in indymedia where we've got the concept 
of share and exchanges (what we call a network). If i allow myself to 
say "we", it's because this is the common idea after long discussions 
and ag on this matter (where you were invited to take part since one 
year...)

When you say "But don't try to be the centre of the world if you are 
not!". I totally agree with you and that's why indy.be can't do it by 
speaking in the name of other imc's in Belgium. Those imc's who would 
like to set up a wonderful tool of cooperation between the collectives. 
Personally, i'm frightened when indy.be speaks about the syndication 
site like a "technical solution", it's really a simplistic and erroneous 
idea. If you followed and if you wanted to take part, maybe you would be 
more informed about it. The syndication is more than that. It's a site 
which will allow in the futur a common dynamic and outreach for local 
collectives. It's also the base for cooporations which will help and 
encourage a strong participation of indymedia in Belgium.

No need to say that indy.be is able to do the same thing with "get 
basic", in less than 2 years, more 16 active persons left indy.be 
because the reasons you know as well as me. So i'm pretty septic about 
this so ambitious project. You can call it "media circus", "get basic", 
or even "banana", it doesn't change the reality of the situation and it 
doesn't give more sense to its gravity.

If you want more information about what's exactly the syndication site 
project, you're of course welcome.


-- 
Google is funny, you should try !






han at indymedia.be a e'crit :

>     From: 
>Danny
>Vandenbroucke <danny.vandenbroucke at SADL.kuleuven.ac.be>
>       To: 
>christophe at indymedia.be, 'process list' <imc-belgium-process at lists.indymedia.org>
>  Subject: 
>RE:
>[Imc-belgium-process] turlututu in imc-process
>     Date: 
>Wed, 8 Sep
>2004
>14:03:53
>+0200
>
>
>What is going on here?
>
> 
>
>     1. I think we had a good discussion with all the people attending
>        the AG of last Saturday. There was a clear position that we want
>        to go on with Indy Belgium as it is and ameliorate it (there
>        were a series of good proposals and ideas). So the proposal of
>        the syndication site – to dissolve in reality Indy Belgium - was
>        rejected because it would just deny the efforts and all the good
>        work of Indy Belgium of the last year. Maybe it was a pity that
>        those who made originally the proposal were not there, but this
>        means that they just missed the opportunity … 
>     2. I want to have a clear response from Turlu(tutu) why he is
>        acting like this. This way of working is not agreed upon,
>        neither within IMC, neither within Indy Belgium, neither in any
>        other local IMC (correct me if I am wrong). This way of working
>        would not be tolerated in any scouting group, or company, or in
>        any democratic organization. On the contrary, I want some decent
>        explication from turlu(tututu)!
>     3. On the other hand, if Turlu(tutututu) wants to initiate a
>        syndication as such, no problem. But don’t try to be the centre
>        of the world if you are not! 
>     4. Any constructive proposal can be discussed at any time for me,
>        but not to destroy good working initiatives …
> 
>
>Regards,
>
>Danny
>
> 
>
>Danny Vandenbroucke
>
>K.U.Leuven
>
>R&D Division SADL (Spatial Applications Division Leuven)
>
>Vital Decosterstraat 102
>
>B - 3000 Leuven,  Belgium
>
>Tel: +32-16-32.35.91   Fax: +32-16-32.35.99  Mobile: +32-486-713573
>
>danny.vandenbroucke at sadl.kuleuven.ac.be
>
> 
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