[Imc-be] Re: proposal of intercollective gathering at quilombo, ghent

[anarsteven]

Hello, hi, bonjour, gutentag, yow,

First of all, I don't like it when heavy decisions like this have such a
short deadlines, so I propose to wait a little longer, and second of all, it
doesn't feel right for me when the imc-be-list does not reflect the same
dynamics as informal meetings that are then reported on a few local lists
(ovl, wvl and liège) but not on this imc-be-list. On the other hand, Klaas
had a good explanation for this, so I am not very disturbed about it. It
could be a warning for the future, though.
 

I have really thought about this but I can't see any advantage in obtaining
and promoting an url ('mediactivisme.be') for a syndicationsite of local
indy-collectives that doesn't show any linguistic relationship with
'indymedia'. In my honest opinion, this can only be disturbing for people
who are not part of a very small incrowd. Is this really the only url-name
where there was consensus about in that informal gathering?

When I proposed (along with somebody else) a few months ago to already
obtain a url with the name 'indymedia' in it (like be.indymedia.org or
belgiek.indymedia.org or whatever), there was a majority within the
imc-be-list that stated that it was better (for reasons of promotion,
transparence, etc) to try to retrieve the 'right' url-name
'belgium.indymedia.org' and meanwhile postpone the launching of the
syndication-site. I agreed finally. There certainly WAS a coherent vision
behind that decision, and that vision was clearly explained in Turlututu's
excellent mails towards the global imc-process-list.
Now we are a week later than turlututu's proposed deadline for a decision on
the global imc-process-list, and, although there seems to be a lot of
international support for our case, it does look like the belgian situation
(a true sticky  avant garde matter on the not yet mature imc-process-list)
may not  be immediately solved. On top of that, some people are playing
poli-tactical games with that immature but integer decisionmakingprocess.

So although I am not against retrieving a different url-name than
'belgium.indymedia.org' BEFORE imc-process appoints it rightfully to us, I
cannot yet be in favour of launching our long awaited syndication-site with
a url that a) has no relationship whatsoever with 'indymedia'-symbolics, and
b) should be replaced, hopefully in a few months, with
'belgium.indymedia.org'. (at least, I presume some people are STILL doing
efforts to obtain this url on imc-process???).
I can also not believe that the launching of the syndication site would pass
without any p.r., so it doesn't have a lot of positive effects imho to
promote a url-name that later should be removed again (when retrieving
'belgium.indymedia.org').
I also wonder if the urlname 'mediactivsme' could have a place on the
imc-cities list, while another provisional name with 'indy' in it certainly
could.(or am I wrong?)

Who can persuade me to support the proposal anyway?  - it's quite possible
that a lot of valuable arguments were displayed at the informal meeting that
I haven't thought about yet. So please try to convince me.

I truelly hope that the choice about obtaining the name 'mediactivsm' has no
similarities with that classroom of 25 pupils where the teacher wanted them
to decide themselves where they wanted to go to on a schooltrip. 12 of them
vigorously wanted to go to the sea, 12 other voted for a trip to the
Ardennes. Only one boy wanted to go to the museum of industrial archeology
but in the end he got what he wanted because the others couldn't find
another consensus.
I have the feeling nobody likes this url 'mediactivisme' really with the
heart, but a lot vote for it because they think we cannot find another
consensus.

Warm greetings
Steven Desanghere aka pinkje
Member of imc-ovl but speaking on behalf of his own thoughts and feelings.