[Imc-birmingham] Riazat Butt/Guardian/GNL is out of the office.

dougbrum at tiscali.co.uk dougbrum at tiscali.co.uk
Tue May 15 05:28:42 PDT 2007


My personal experience with journos in the past has been pretty 
negative. You do get sympathetic ones but these are rare commodity. How 
do we know the ones on the list haven't got a hidden agenda? How many 
times have we seen sensationalist exposes of Left? We all know that 
Anarchists are trouble making rabble that start all the riots because 
the 'Boys in Blue' would never wade into peaceful protests with 
battons. I'm just very sceptical.

I agree with Alex about the list. I also think that we should be aware 
of what we are writing on this list and who is reading it.

Up the proles!!
D 
>----Original Message----
>From: phunkee at aktivix.org
>Date: 15/05/2007 10:14 
>To: "Birmingham Indymedia"<imc-birmingham at lists.indymedia.org>
>Subj: Re: [Imc-birmingham] Riazat Butt/Guardian/GNL is out of the 
office.
>
>Shiar wrote:
>
>>Hmm why is a mainstream journalists on this list? Many Indymedia 
lists and
>>events have strict rules about allowing mainstream journos in, 
bearing in
>>mind that many of them are only there to get leads or info for their
>>'scoops' or even spying on campaigns and actions (there have been 
such
>>incidents in the past!). I'm not saying this person is, but how 
would we
>>know when the only time we hear from them is an automatic response 
that he
>>or she are "out of the office"?
>>
>>So I'm proposing we unsubscribe Riazat.Butt at guardian.co.uk and if 
the
>>person concerned is here because they are disillusion with their
>>institution (The Guiardian), it's not very diffcult to get a more 
personal
>>(and decent) email account and re-join again.
>>
>>Dealine for decision: Thursday 17 May.
>>  
>>
>I don't feel that strongly about this and as flatline has pointed 
out 
>this is a publicly archived list, but i should point out that there 
are 
>other 'mainstream' journos on this list. One of which i know is very 
>receptive to press releases from grassroots groups and isn't 
necessarily 
>here to fish for scoops and then distort them to suit their media 
>institution's agenda.
>
>So, can i propose a compromise?
>
>Seeing as we agreed to unsubscribe everyone who hasn't contributed 
>constructively over the last month, then surely this will include 
all 
>the journos?
>
>I think we also agreed that people could rejoin our list and i 
proposed 
>that they'd have to introduce themselves, state their intentions and 
>commit to some work.
>
>What do people reckon?
>
>phunkee (looking forward to re-structuring our indymedia project)
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