[Imc-birmingham] [Fwd: Re: [Imc-uk-network] feedback from climate camp mtg last WE in london]

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Subject: 	Re: [Imc-uk-network] feedback from climate camp mtg last WE in 
london
Date: 	Sat, 26 May 2007 19:46:21 +0100
From: 	maqui <maqui at syndicate.org.uk>
To: 	kriptick <kriptick at beeb.net>
CC: 	IMCUK Network <imc-uk-network at lists.indymedia.org>, IMC-London 
<imc-london at lists.indymedia.org>



Hi

On Tuesday, May 22, 2007, at 01:13  am, kriptick wrote:

> Maybe someone can forward this to other lists - I
> dunno which is approp?

A bit late but because I haven't seen it forwarded to any other list  
yet, I am now forwarding it to the Network list where hopefully most of  
the Kollectives will be able to pick it up and discuss this locally.

I guess any discussions / preparations could be kept in the Network  
list.
cheers
maqui

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kriptick's feedback from climate camp mtg last WE in london:
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>  I wouldn't have had time to attend all of this as it was 2 very full  
> days
> of intensive mtgs @ the Greenpeace bldg in London with no clear  
> timetable at
> the start. However I arranged for someone to phone me shortly before  
> the
> media stuff meeting so I cld dash across london & attend. I didn't  
> have long
> to speak as prior decision making had dragged on and we were about to  
> be
> thrown out of the greenpeace bldg shortly after.
>
> Anyway the CCers were very keen about wanting another IMC media ctr  
> there
> this year & I said we'd come up with the goods PROVIDED that we have  
> some
> kind of power & some kind of satellite link. I think some of them were
> unaware that IMC hadn't itself provided much of the hardware last year.
> Photographer Gary who was also there agreed to contact psand who  
> provided
> the sat coms, netwrk kit & dozen lappies previously - maybe this has  
> already
> been arranged? They were hoping to have sufficient alt energy sources  
> like
> PV panels, batts & wind gens so as to to not have to have another 6KVA  
> bio
> diesel genny thundering away in backgrnd powering everythng as last yr.
> Afterwards @ home however I made a thumb nail guesstimate of power  
> reqs for
> complete media ctr as about 400W? which is a tall order for alt energy
> especially if it's still & overcast & they want it running for as many
> hrs/day as poss as I think they do. Someone afterwards said they're
> approaching some alt energy companies with a view to presumably  
> blagging or
> renting tasty alt energy power sources & storage. I was asked if we  
> needed a
> tent but I assumed we cld use planet's 2 tents again? If not then I'm  
> sure
> if we ask they can find smthng 4 us. We didn't have time to discuss  
> funding
> & it was prob the wrong mtg anyway but someone did briefly approach me  
> after
> to say that there was reasonable funding available. Bear in mind that  
> our
> overall costs last year were naff all so we shouldn't need to be  
> greedy.
> http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-network/2006-September/ 
> 0909-py.html
>
>
> One thing I stressed was that this year we definitely don't want to be  
> seen
> just as a separate service provider, phone charger, email check  
> service but
> that we really really wanted to encourage peeps to use the ctr to prep  
> &
> upload their own reports. Last year there had been generally good  
> action
> rprts but almost bugger all reporting of all the varied & amazing  
> wrkshps &
> other daily goings on meaning that thousands of armchair browsers at  
> home
> around the world must have assumed that all the happy campers were  
> there
> just yoghurt weaving in all the dozen marquees in the days leading up  
> to the
> big action. For instance I was in a climate science wrkshp there with 2
> climatology PhDs speaking - who in the outside world would have known  
> that?
> So I said that in order to encourage more DIY reporting we'd be  
> offering
> regular timetabled trainings ourselves on how to write, check & upload  
> rprts
> with pics resizing etc. If I have anything to do with this then we  
> should be
> offering these trainings daily & I hope other IMCers will commit to  
> helping
> out. This was a major oversight last year that none of us there  
> thought to
> do any trainings at all in what was an ideal opportunity to spread the
> knowledge to ready gathered activists of how to submit good rprts &
> generally increase the volume of quality stuff going to newswire. I'll  
> also
> try & offer a more comprehensive wrkshp myself on photography there  
> now that
> I've gained a little experience from doing 1 last WE in Brighton. They  
> are
> gonna need to know the times of our training wrkshps fairly soon for
> inclusion in main timetable so we need to decide SOON exactly when  
> these are
> to be, shld they be @ staggered times so's to minimise daily clashes &
> therefore max attendance?
>
> On a personal note, I also stated that as a photographer, I had felt
> entering the camp last year was pretty scary cos of all the rabid
> no-photography-without-every-single-person's-permission warnings &  
> vibes.
> Since by the end of the camp, I hadn't had so much as a single dirty  
> look
> whilst furtively trying to photo document what had been going on  
> around the
> site & so it had felt to me as if just a very few paranoid persons  
> making
> the rules were assuming that everyone else was similarly anti cameras  
> as
> them. I was very relieved that there was much hand waggling in the grp  
> at
> this point & they admitted that they'd seriously goofed, shot  
> themselves in
> the foot etc & much regretted that this over zealous rule had caused  
> climate
> camp 1 to be poorly documented as a historical event. So hopefully  
> things
> will be considerably relaxed for the likes of me & others this yr.  
> There is
> however still to be a pink flag waved whilst mainstrm journos are shown
> around site which to my mind, making journos feel like plague carriers,
> doesn't seem a sensible way to encourage them to sympathetically report
> important issues to a bigger audience than we ever can. Anyway that's  
> my
> view.
>
> ok, couldn't think of anything else to say in the time & can't  
> remember wot
> else was said if anything. Maybe someone can forward this to other  
> lists - I
> dunno which is approp?
>
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