[Imc-cleveland] Editing Suggestions

Thu Jul 13 21:36:48 PDT 2006

When I wrote my last email, I wasn't implying that I would just continue to 
post articles and hope someone else cleaned them up.  I am thankful for the 
info you shared and will look into how to edit pictures.  But in our last 
few meetings, we have decided that getting features up is important because 
its a way that will draw people back to the site, when the site is current.

And yeah, getting to a place of credibility is a goal for sure.  It takes a 
collective, active, steady, participation to reach that goal.

>From: jesse <abgeschiedene at yahoo.com>
>To: ABIGAIL FISHEL <aafishel at msn.com>, imc-cleveland at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: RE: [Imc-cleveland] Editing Suggestions
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:37:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Abigail -
>
>I guess we can chalk this one up to a difference in
>philosophy.  I believe each collective individual is
>responsible for learning the basic programming skills
>required for making a credible-looking feature.  They
>are not difficult to learn, and anyone will help or
>answer questions upon request.  If someone has not
>taken the time to learn how to properly publish a
>feature, they should not publish features
>independently (i.e., instead, send a "rough draft"
>over the listserve and let other collective members
>review).  This way, the website doesn't look
>uncredible/sloppy between the time you put up the
>feature and the time someone fixes it.
>
>If Indymedia is to be taken seriously, we have to take
>it seriously.  "If I make a mess, someone else will
>clean it up" is not the characteristic of a serious
>news website.  I much prefer the "don't make a mess"
>approach.  Indymedia will never be a threat to
>corporate media if it's editors don't even take the
>small amount of time necessary to learn how to use the
>software.
>
>I also disagree that "getting the story out there" is
>an absolute priority above all others.  You don't need
>Indymedia to "get a story out there".  A blog can do
>that.  The difference between Indymedia and a blog is
>that indymedia can (hopefully) "get the story out
>there" with CREDIBILITY.  If people don't think we're
>any more credible than a blog, than it doesn't matter
>that the "story is out there" because corporate media
>will always control public consciousness and policy.
>
>Hell, I've been involved in Indymedia for many years,
>and I wouldn't believe half the shit on our website
>right now.  Everything I do read I have to "verify"
>using independent research.  That wouldn't be
>necessary if we were a credible news site.  I'd rather
>have 5 features that people can rely on as accurate
>than 20 blog features.  Indymedia isn't about
>activists without their own websites getting free web
>space to "throw up" stories about the issues they
>like.  It's about creating a non-corporate media
>counter-institution that can compete with corporate
>sources of media.  This means the PUBLIC AT LARGE has
>to take us seriously, not just the 1% of activists.
>Would your parents, teachers or co-workers look to
>indymedia as their PRIMARY source of local, domestic
>and international news?  Right now, no.  Could it be
>this way?  Yes.  We should be looking to other
>indymedia's that ARE being taken seriously for
>guidance, such as sf.indymedia, nyc.indymedia, or
>dc.indymedia.org.  Otherwise, we're not only hurting
>the clevelandimc credibility, we're hurting the entire
>network's credibility.
>
>
>
> > Jesse, thanks. That would be me.  Yes, I am an
> > ameteur at making stories
> > into features.  I was wondering about the picture
> > thing, how to reduce or
> > enlarge them to fit better on the webpage.  I will
> > keep that in mind.  I
> > think ultimately, its important to get them out
> > there.  If someone like
> > yourself sees fit to pretty them up, by all
> > means.......
> >
> >
> > >From: jesse <abgeschiedene at yahoo.com>
> > >To: indymedia <imc-cleveland at lists.indymedia.org>
> > >Subject: [Imc-cleveland] Editing Suggestions
> > >Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 09:26:16 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Just took a look at the site, and noticed the
> > features
> > >looked pretty sloppy.  I fixed them up, but here's
> > >some simple tips people may consider when
> > publishing
> > >future features:
> > >
> > >1) When you use a photo with your feature, save it
> > to
> > >your computer and upload it to the website.  Don't
> > use
> > >the link from the website you took the picture
> > from,
> > >because then you can't resize it, and if the
> > website
> > >takes the photo down it will disappear from
> > cleveland
> > >imc as well.
> > >
> > >2) You can resize your photos using almost any
> > editing
> > >program, such as Microsoft Paint.  Then, upload
> > them
> > >to the site using the "upload" option in admin.
> > >
> > >3) Try to rename your .jpg before you upload it.
> > If
> > >it uses a generic name, such as "photo", it will
> > >overwrite any other pic on the website that also
> > uses
> > >the name "photo".
> > >
> > >Like I said, just some suggestions to make the site
> > >look a little more credible to visitors.
> > >
> > >jesse
> > >
> > >"In the expansion of the great Western empires,
> > profit and hope of further
> > >profit were obviously tremendously important...But
> > there is more than that
> > >to imperialism and colonialism.  There was a
> > commitment to them over and
> > >above profit, a commitment in constant circulation
> > and recirculation,
> > >which, on the one hand, allowed decent men and
> > women to accept the notion
> > >that distant territories and their native peoples
> > should be subjugated,
> > >and, on the other, replenished metropolitan
> > energies so that these decent
> > >people could think of the imperium as a protracted,
> > almost metaphysical
> > >obligation to rule sobordinate, inferior, or less
> > advanced peoples."
> > >
> > >~Edward Said, 1993
> > >
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>jesse
>
>"In the expansion of the great Western empires, profit and hope of further 
>profit were obviously tremendously important...But there is more than that 
>to imperialism and colonialism.  There was a commitment to them over and 
>above profit, a commitment in constant circulation and recirculation, 
>which, on the one hand, allowed decent men and women to accept the notion 
>that distant territories and their native peoples should be subjugated, 
>and, on the other, replenished metropolitan energies so that these decent 
>people could think of the imperium as a protracted, almost metaphysical 
>obligation to rule sobordinate, inferior, or less advanced peoples."
>
>~Edward Said, 1993
>
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